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Completely revised Bwmoll3 (talk) 10:20, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed material

I reoved the following from the article;

Wings in the new Air Force were configured very closely to the organization of the old groups and the Air Force perpetuated the history of the 3rd Bombardment Group by bestowing its combat record and history on the newly formed 3rd Bombardment Wing. In March 1950, the 3d Bombardment Wing moved to Johnson Air Base to accommodate the 35th Fighter-Interceptor Wing, which was moved to Yokota from Johnson to perform air defense ^[1]

Although this is what is stated in the cited source (by a wing-level historian), it is entirely wrong. "in addition to support and service elements, each of these new wings, as a general rule, had one combat group . . ." Maurer, Combat Units of the Air Force3, introduction pp. 12-13 (emphasis added). The rules for perpetuation of history by temporary bestowal of combat groups on like-numbered wings took place only after the groups were inactivated. Ibid. In the case of the 3d Group, this did not occur until 1957.

Additionally, this is a direct (but unattributed) quotation of the source,. --Lineagegeek (talk) 19:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ "A Brief History of the 3rd Wing" (PDF). 673rd Air Base Wing History Office. Archived from the original (PDF) on 26 August 2017. Retrieved 26 August 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Split

This article is quite long. Part of the unit history is already at 8th Aero Squadron. I suggest splitting off 8th Bombardment Squadron from 8th Special Operations Squadron with the actual split starting with the unit's involvement in the Vietnam War for continuity. --Lineagegeek (talk) 17:14, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

1. No, not all USAF squadrons have the squadron emblem as the leading image in the infobox. Quite a few have images of the most recent aircraft flown by the squadron.

2. "Patches" are inappropriate for use on Wikipedia. Patches purporting to reflect the approved squadron emblem frequently alter it and usually are cruder renditions than the emblem. The image you labeled as a patch is really one of the squadron's emblem. Many patches deviate entirely from the approved emblem. There might be cases where a patch itself could be historically significant enough for inclusion on the article. (in the case of the 8th and 13th Bombardment Squadrons, the DOOM Pussy image might fall into this category). Emblems are appropriate, and there is a place for them in the portion of the infobox expressly provided – not the image section. --Lineagegeek (talk) 23:36, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[3dBW-1] "A Brief History of the 3rd Wing" (PDF). 673rd Air Base Wing History Office. Archived from the original (PDF) on 26 August 2017. Retrieved 26 August 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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