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I don't see why this article needs cleanup; it seems perfectly clear to me. Nor is it really a stub. Kundor 01:35, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

The tags were added before I made some changes. Since you agree it's been expanded well, I'll go ahead and remove them. Derrick Coetzee 02:31, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
In that case, good work. ;-) Kundor 21:33, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

possible move[edit]

i'm considering moving this article to PC text mode art and generalising it since the affects can be (and often were) achived by methods other than ansi.sys (such as loading data direct to screen memory). What do others think? Plugwash 23:28, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

You would then include ASCII Art, Amiga Art, etc? Lordscarlet 19:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Well i meant PC as in its modern meaning of IBM compatible. and yes by definition ascii art would be included Plugwash 21:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
There are a number of related types of character based art, ascii art being most portable. Although pc art looks similar, ansi art differentiates itself with the use of ansi color escape sequences, ansi cursor positioning for basic animation, and the use of graphic characters (usually cp437 which was standard on pcs), which made it a natural companion to bbs use as it could be transmitted over serial lines. There is a small movement (not particularly significant yet) to reintroduce ansi art using utf8 instead of cp437 which works unmodified on many modern terminal emulators (cp337 has been steadily loosing marketshare to more standard character sets such as latin-1 and unicode). (talk) 04:00, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Mysteriously, no new versions of TheDraw emerged after version 4.63 in 1993, but in later years a number of other ANSI editors appeared, some of which are still maintained today. Does this sentence add anything to the article? Bipedalpedia 23:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps not the mysteriously bit, but it does add something to the article; implying The Draw was the de facto standard, but once it disappeared, others sprung up. -- 07:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

SPAM or NOT SPAM?[edit]

I am new to Wikipedia, so...

I have tried to add to "ANSI Art" a few times as "kayakdiver", and my submission keeps getting deleted. The program I am offering a link to is FREE, as is a neat little demo program I also wrote! I think it is being seen as spam by the Bots. I even saw a message that says my web site,, which hosts some of my image files, is flagged as being disallowed.

The "TheDraw" program featured in the article clearly asks for money to continue using the program. Why is it NOT being disallowed as spam as my free program seems to be? Or, is there some other problem with my submission I am overlooking?

The link I'd like to present is on one of my own web sites (, and I am the sole author/owner of the web sites, programs and images involved.

Any help is appreciated!

Kayakdiver 23:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

"SE.EXE Screen Editor FREE! Probably the most intuitive ANSI Screen Editor out there. Download the .zip file containing the editor and manuals, and/or a great sample program (GOOO Factory) that illustrates what you can do with SE.EXE."
To begin with, the way this is written can only be interpreted as an ad. It's biased, contains weasel words and does not stick to the WP:NPOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a link farm nor an instruction manual, so the instructions in the paragraph should be removed. It may be possible that it could contribute to the article, but then the link needs complete rephrasing.
Suggested phrasing would be like this:
"SE.EXE is a freeware ANSI screen editor."
That's all for now. I'd like to hear what others have to say about this before any changes about this matter are made. - Eagle_Tas 19:14, 20 July 2007 (GMT)
I removed the list of editors and viewers from the article, renamed the paragraph to "ANSI art editors and viewers" and added the reference to List of text editors#ASCII_art where the editors and the viewers are listed. --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 04:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Beyond that, TheDraw is a historically significant, relevant, and notable piece of software, used over the years, and moved ANSI art forward. If you have a new software program, then this article is not the place to write about it, but this talk page is fine!! —Wikibarista (talk) 05:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Amen, I am using TheDraw myself since 1993 :) --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 20:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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the lit diversion[edit]

No one worked harder to advance ANSI artscene lit than myself, as Cthulu of Mistigris. But these paragraphs do not belong in this article. I have preserved them so that some enterprising future writer can use them to jump-start an article on that topic.

"A subset of the broader ANSI art scene arose in 1993–1994, known as the 'Lit Scene'. Packaged and distributed similarly to ANSI art packs, zipped and uploaded to BBS systems throughout the United States and the world, Lit packs saw increasing popularity - and rising quality - until an abrupt end of the scene coincident with the explosion of the web-driven commercial Internet. These Lit packs often also contained ANSI art by authors and guest artists, and music that could be played by reader clients provided with the packs, composed on hexadecimal sound editors using instrument samples, typically in MOD format as originally developed on the Amiga and later also used on early Soundblaster-powered PC's. The effective replacement of the BBS scene with the Internet effectively decimated both sides of the ANSI and Lit scenes, creators and users.

Two of the most well-known and prolific[citation needed] Lit groups were Soulz at Zero (SaZ) and its contemporary Candelabra, the latter of which restarted as a website a few years after its initial run as a traditional BBS-driven distributed 'pack'-zine. Candelabra's run as a website lasted the better part of a decade. The leader of SaZ, The Stranger, and one of its best-known writers, WiSH, joined Candelabra, whose co-founder and original editor The Alienist had also contributed briefly to SaZ during its run."