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Define & Clarify the Difference Between Advocacy & Lobbying[edit]

Could someone please introduce a new first paragraph that better defines and clarifies the difference between advocacy (advocate) and lobbying (lobbyist); to make it clearer for the reader that these two words are not interchangeable.

(1) An advocate is someone who pleads in favour of; supports or recommends publicly, typically on behalf of others or to help others in a social context, and importantly; acts not for personal or financial gain or for others to gain financially or personally. Many advocates are unpaid, uncompensated volunteers who contribute knowledge, skills, expertise and time to societal (community, equity, public/human interest, patriotic) causes.

(2) A lobbyist is someone who is enlisted and compensated (financially or otherwise) to influence and achieve an outcome (typically a political outcome) on behalf of other persons or entities. The lobbyist gains personally from being compensated for their lobbying actions, and the persons or entities who enlist the lobbyist stand to gain personally or professionally from the lobbyist's successful actions or outcome/s.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Less US centric please[edit]

Would it be possible to have a slightly less US centric take on this term? Here in the UK, advocacy generally refers to a very individual process of representation (not least in the mental health and disabilities fields), professional legal stuff (Scotland) or rights based campaigning. Don't think this is necessarily reflected in the current version. Maybe teh topic needs to split? GraemeE17 00:56, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

See advocate. I added a disambiguation to both articles. Hyacinth 08:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
This disambiguation does not respond fully to Graeme's point. I have added a page on Independent Advocacy, but really this is just advocacy practised by independent people through advocacy schemes that are set up in certain ways. What I want to ask is, is it right to separate 'independent' advocacy in this way, or should key parts of that definition be included in this article? Visctrix 22:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
I do not remember nor read above having claimed to fully address GraemeE17's point. However, this is a wiki, and GraemeE17 could address his own points. Hyacinth 23:24, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
imho Advocacy is an ok title in the UK for this subject, an advocate is different and there is now a link to the appropriate article from the lead and elsewhere.

I was going to write a simple disambiguation page for this - but decided on a slightly different approach. This should help with the points by Visctrix and GraemeE17 (I hope). Also, it should respond to the proposal to merge this article with 'Interest group'. Rowmn (talk) 13:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

The problem is not just cultural but one about the scope of advocacy. I don't have time to suggest changes now except to say the definition adopted here is a very limited one. USAID has a much broader definition that locates advocacy within the context of a politically active society. This is linked to notions of advocacy as part of a 'democratic space'. The purpose of advocacy is to bring about change - not just to impact on policy and there are many strategies that can be used to bring that about - see Dan ChurchAid 'The ABC's of ADVOCACY for a simple explanation and a starting point for discussion. Mysteryrare (talk) 06:26, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[edit]

This link: Public Private Dialogue A resource for advocacy practitioners wishing to promote policy reforms through dialogue (sponsored by World Bank, IFC, OCED, DFID, GTZ) was added by an IP address registered to the World Bank Group ( is a World Bank project). In keeping with our conflict of interest and external links guidelines I've moved it here for consideration by regular editors of this article who are unaffiliated with the site. -- Siobhan Hansa 18:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Article wording[edit]

Is some of this copy and pasted from somewhere? Does no one else think the wording is atrocious and strange? Beach drifter (talk) 05:59, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

It reads like an academic paper to me - I have pretty much replaced the lead para but the rest of the article needs some work to make it less academic and more encyclopedic imho. PeterEastern (talk) 23:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)