Talk:Ahva (political party)

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Should be Achva based on the usual way we transliterate the "ches" -- Y not? 20:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No it shouldn't. ח is transliterated as either h or kh in English. Ch is the German/Yiddish transliteration. Number 5 7 21:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And "khaf"? How to distinguish? -- Y not? 21:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Khaf is also "kh". There is no difference in transliteration into English as English does not differentiate between the sounds (and neither do most Israelis!). Number 5 7 21:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I dunno, 57. Are you sure? The Khaf is so brutal and the Ches could be so melodic... I dunno a lot of Israelis, but I always perceived a difference. At least more to Ahva. Really, KH is entirely inappropriate. -- Y not? 22:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The only ones who really pronounce it differently are some of the Mizrahi Israelis (particularly the Teimenim). The problem with Ahva is that the "h" is too soft to convey proper pronounciation (it's not אהבה after all). Anyway, the most important thing is that "kh" is the proper English rendering for voiceless velar fricatives (and as the article points out, is used for transliterating Het from Sephardic Hebrew too). Number 5 7 07:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that 3 users (Y, Tewfik and myself) support moving this article to Ahva. I will move if there's no objection. This 'akhva' transliteration has always bothered me. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 23:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I guess Brotherhood (political party) is an option, but I can't seem to find any incidences where it has been translated (or indeed spelt Ahva - it usually appears as Achva, but I would go for Ahva over Achva, as there are even more pronounciation issues associated with the former!). пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 16:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]