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Watch your language
[edit]Can somebody transliterate the ranks? I mean literatim, not a translation. Trekphiler (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
New insignia of 2009
[edit]I added new straps. UeArtemis (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I finished the table of historical ranks.--UeArtemis (talk) 17:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Table
[edit]I made the table of historical military ranks long ago and had forgotten to specify the sources. Now I do not remember them. I would be grateful to those who find these sources. But, please, do not confuse years, Ranks were often changed.UeArtemis (talk) 17:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Wrong ranking
[edit]In the Ukrainian People's Republic military Otaman was a genral rank. There also was the General of the Army rank as well Holovny Otaman (Chief Otaman). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not full true. I pointed out to the year of using this ranks. The Table of Ranks was often changed in those days. We have insignia for this Navy and Army ranks of the UNR, so I think all is OK.UeArtemis (talk) 14:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- As I know, Chief Otaman is the rank of the Ukrainian State (Hetmanate), not the Republic.UeArtemis (talk) 18:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
That does not really mean it's necessary true, does it? Why don't you do more research? For example: ВІЙСЬКОВІ ЗВАННЯ ТА ВІЙСЬКОВІ РАНГИ ЗБРОЙНИХ ФОРМУВАНЬ УКРАЇНИ. Otaman ranks were introduced by the General Bulawa of the Ukrainian People's Republic. General Bulawa was a General Staff of the Ukrainian Army early in the 20th century that consisted of Otamans (Generals) who headed the former Russian Imperial Army formations usually Corps and Divisions. Among such were Otamans Bolbochan, Osetskiy, Petriv, Hryhoriev, Hrekov, and many others. On November 13, 1918 Otaman Hrekov introduced the rank of the Chief Otaman which was given to Symon Petlyura as the commander in chief. Here is another encyclopedic reference that defeats your perception of otaman rank Encyclopedia of Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 14:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- If you have insignia, edit! But as I said "в литературе довольно сильный бардак", so check all once again before editing.--Юе Артеміс (talk) 16:26, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Say, what? That don't make any sense. How are they can be equal? Captain is the company commander, it is the universal fact.
...Navy captain...UeArtemis (talk) 14:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Далее информация из украинской вики, которую еще нужно проверить. Вообще, в литературе довольно сильный бардак в том как именно пишутся названия определенных званий (неофицерских) и в том кто к какому этапу формирования иерархии относится. У меня были достоверные ссылки для таблицы, но их посеял. Зря я их сразу не написал. Так вот, укр.вики:
Військові звання України
Під час української державності 1917 — 1921 у січні 1918 заведені вперше за Центральної Радою військові звання, що були еквівалентні точно з виконуваними обов'язками:
- козак,
- ройовий,
- чотовий,
- бунчужний,
- півсотенний,
- сотник,
- курінний,
- полковник,
- отаман бригади,
- отаман дивізії,
- отаман корпусу,
- отаман армії.
Означення службових ступенів — позначалося на правому рукаві вище ліктя галунові стрічки (шеврони). У липні 1918 під час гетьманату введено нові військові звання, з відзнаками на плечах:
- рядовий
- гуртковий
- ройовий
- чотовий
- бунчужний
- хорунжий
- значковий
- сотник
- військовий старшина
- полковник
- генерал-хорунжий
- генерал-значковий
- генерал-бунчужний
Остаточно у березні 1920 були установлені в Армії УНР одностайні військові звання, означувані на комірі:
- рядові
- козак
- муштровий козак
- підстаршина
- гуртковий
- ройовий
- чотовий
- бунчужний
- кандидат у старшину
- підхорунжий
- молодша старшина
- хорунжий
- поручник
- сотник
- булавна старшина
- підполковник
- полковник
- генерали
- генерал-хорунжий
- генерал-поручник
- генерал-полковник
- головний отаман
За гетьманату у липні 1918 усталено старшинські ранги у військовому флоті:
- корабельний ґардемарин
- мічман
- лейтенант
- старший лейтенант
- Капітан ІІ рангу
- Капітан І рангу
- контр-адмірал
- віце-адмірал
- адмірал
Вже з самого початку організації Української Галицької Армії — у листопаді-грудні 1918 була впроваджена номенклатура українських військових звань, а також українська військова термінологія, розвинута у 1914 — 18 в Легіоні УСС, у якому українська мова була службовою.
Розпорядженням Державного Секретаріату Військових Справ ЗО УНР 30 квітня 1919 введені військові звання та їх відзнаки у всієї УГА:
- рядовики
- стрілець
- старший стрілець
- підстаршина
- вістун
- десятник
- старший десятник
- булавний старший десятник
- кандидат у старшину
- підхорунжий
- молодша старшина
- хорунжий
- чотар
- поручник
- сотник
- булавна старшина
- отаман
- підполковник
- полковник
- генерали
- генерал-чотар
- генерал-поручник
- генерал-сотник
В УГА існувала ще тимчасова найвища підстаршинський ранг — бунчужного або заступника старшини відповідно до австрійського рангу «оффіцірсштельфертретер». Вони виконували обов'язки молодшої старшини і їх підвищували до рангу хорунжого або чотаря, не іменуючи вже нових.
2019
[edit]- OR-1 — рекрут = Recruit ~ U.S. Army Private,
- OR-2 — солдат = Soldier ~ U.S. Army Private Second Class,
- OR-3 — старший солдат = Senior Soldier ~ U.S. Army Private First Class,
- OR-4
- OR-5 — молодший сержант = Junior Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Sergeant (team leader),
- OR-6 — сержант = Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Staff Sergeant (squad leader),
- OR-7 — старший сержант = Senior Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Sergeant First Class (platoon sergeant),
- OR-8 — перший сержант = First Sergeant ~ U.S. Army First Sergeant (company sergeant)
- OR-9a — штаб-сержант = Staff Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major (battalion sergeant),
- OR-9b — майстер-сержант = Master Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major (brigade sergeant),
- OR-9c — старший майстер-сержант = Senior Master Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Sergeant Major of the Army (...of a military branch),
- OR-9d — головний майстер-сержант = Chief Master Sergeant ~ U.S. Army Sergeant Major of the Army (...of the Army). --Юе Артеміс (talk) 16:40, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
@Skjoldbro: Many people in Ukraine think that squad leader is "buck" sergeant (OR-5) or corporal (OR-4), and because of that reformers use codes wrong.--Юе Артеміс (talk) 18:48, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Rank insignia of supreme commander
[edit]It seems that the President of Ukraine as supreme commander has his own rank insignia: http://www.president.gov.ua/en/gallery/2317.html#39003 --Kalte Dusche (talk) 13:12, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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International Legion
[edit]Does the International Legion's members have ranks? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:46, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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