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Mariam(?) and lack of reliable sources

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Our only source on the lives of Mariam al-Asturlabi and her father is a brief mention in the Fihrist of Ibn al-Nadim in a chapter on notable astrolabe makers. Bayard Dodge's (1970) translation of the relevant chapter (p. 671) reads as follows:

"[...]; al-ʿIjlī al-Asṭurlābī, an apprentice of Betulus; al-ʿIjlīyah, his daughter, a pupil of Betulus, who was with Sayf al-Dawlah."

And that sums up all that we actually know about Mariam and her father. Note that there is no mention of her alleged first name Mariam or that she was an astronomer. All these claims stem from the publications of the 1001 Inventions organization where they are simply stated without citing any reliable sources.

Should we mention in the article that there are actually no reliable sources identifying this remarkable lady as being called Mariam or that she was an astronomer? AstroLynx (talk) 10:34, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Mariam" al-Asturlabi

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If we really want to be close to the only original source on her (see above posting) perhaps the article should be renamed "Mariam" al-Asturlabi, mention that her first name Mariam is a modern addition for which there is no reliable source and also remove all allusions to her as being an astronomer for there is no reliable source for this claim either. AstroLynx (talk) 07:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A blog about the lack of sources: Concerning “Mariam” Al-Asturlabiya by Raya Wolfsun.Kylenano (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have added this to External Links. Kylenano (talk) 13:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]