Talk:Aluminium/Spelling

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Frequently asked questions (FAQ)
Q: Doesn't the spelling aluminum predate aluminium?
A: Yes, and alumium predates both. However, IUPAC uses both, but prefers aluminium.
Q: I still think aluminium sounds funny/odd/jarring.
A: Someone from another country would say the same about aluminum.
Q: I have new, pressing information that leads me to believe the spelling should still be changed.
A: Feel free to start a new section and make your case, but please check to see if your point(s) have been raised in previous closed discussions.
Q: Are you people seriously arguing about a single letter 'i'?
A: Yes. Alternatively, no. It depends on whom you ask.
Q: How about a compromise with alumin(i)um?
A: A house divided against itself cannot stand. (For those unfamiliar with US history who may not understand this, see Lincoln's House Divided Speech)
Q: Would searching for "aluminum" not turn up results effectively giving priority to the English spellers over the American spellers?
A: No, because Wikipedia provides a redirect to the correct article and most search engines will be able to recognize (or recognise) alternative spellings.
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vote with your wallet[edit]

I won't restate any of the arguments listed above, as they clearly fall on deaf ears. Instead, I will vote in the only meaningful way I can. I refuse to donate to Wikipedia until ALUMINUM is recognized as the proper spelling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.28.178.73 (talk) 03:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I wonder how much difference it made? Double sharp (talk) 14:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
How can 'aluminum' be the 'proper' spelling. The language is called 'English' and the English spell it aluminium.
... next time foreigners decide to create their own localised English dictionary I suggest they enlist the services of a compiler who can actually spell English properly, rather than one who randomly distributes what appear to be typos everywhere. Or one who at least understands the reason for the proper spellings of things such as haemoglobin, haemophilia and haematite, rather than one who is insufficiently well-red(!) to know nor care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.221.26 (talk) 10:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
This sounds logical, but languages don't really work that way. It's fairly accepted now that Brazilian Portuguese is the main form of Portuguese. Both British English and American English descend from 17th and 18th century forms with neither one being exactly like those. And even if "England" did somehow own English the Kingdom of England ceased to be in 1707, well before aluminum's discovery.--T. Anthony (talk) 03:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
"the language is called English": Irrelevant. That's an archaic tradition that is no purely from inertia. There are more native speakers of "English" in the United States than ALL OTHER COUNTRIES COMBINED. More than England, Canada, Australia, and anywhere else, all added up at once. The US has the majority of all first language English speakers on the entire planet. — Kaz (talk) 15:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Etymology Section[edit]

Do you even read what you write? According to the article: "[The discoverer of the element] settled on aluminum..." Case closed. If you want to argue for the one with the extra "i" claiming IUPAC's decision, that is also addressed: "IUPAC internal publications use either spelling." So, there you have it: it was NAMED ALUMINUM, and it is CALLED ALUMINUM. Please make the necessary changes. 134.240.241.240 (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

And he named it after alumina not "aluminia." The extra i is an incorrect hypercorrection, like an before hard h, or b in de(b)t, or s in i(s)land. 108.48.94.155 (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


In Canada the usual spelling is Aluminium although both are used. See, for example, [1] and [2]. The two small references to spelling in Canada need correcting accordingly.

As a Canadian (Albeit a Torontonian), it's almost always spelled aluminum here. Redflorist (talk) 00:19, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

The formal spelling by IUPAC is 'aluminium'. You ar free to use your dialect locally. -DePiep (talk) 22:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I think given that most users of this Wikipedia page will be from the United States, Aluminum should be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.68.204 (talk) 08:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

No. Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

A war between brothers[edit]

We don't argue with the French or the Germans on word spelling -- yet we argue with the English and Canadians until we are red white and blue in the face. We can have two words for the same thing, and even two spellings for the many words, even in America. Since we can't agree with ourselves, we have no justification for quarreling with the British. Use either of the spellings any time -- who cares? We could argue with the baboons about whether people should have body hair -- that would at least be interesting. (Apologies to anyone who does not appreciate a little light humor.) Grammar's Li'l Helper 05:11, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm hesitant to respond as I guess you're trying to be funny. But pretty much all this is irrelevant if there's any non-joke to it. For one we don't have more German or French speakers than Germany or France have so of course we don't argue on how they spell. This is English-language Wikipedia, but it's not England's Wikipedia. I would not be surprised if Portuguese Wikipedia has more in Brazilian form than European as it's "Portuguese language" not "Portugal's". Further this debate, on aluminum, was also not about every word in the US form of English so that we allow two spellings for some word doesn't mean we do it for every word or even can. It is also a fact that the US and the Philippines represent the majority of the world's English speakers and they/we, almost universally, spell this word "Aluminum." From what I recall British posters disliked that fact immensely, but it didn't make it false. It is also a fact Wikipedia has ruled against "official spellings" in the case of countries, see Ivory Coast or now Czech Republic, if they are not the most common English usage.
However second-language speakers might be majority British due to India among others. Further going by Portuguese Wikipedia you tend to keep the variant "as is." As "Aluminium" looks to be first that's probably enough reason I should have gave up earlier than I did. But Americans arguing on this isn't because we're some ugly Americans. Traditionally I'm not especially patriotic. We argued because "Aluminum" has at times or places been official and is almost certainly the most common spelling for first-language speakers of English.--T. Anthony (talk) 09:04, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
However, Wikipedia doesn't work that way. If it did then Wikipedia would be written entirely in American English, at least for topics that are not specific to another English-speaking country. It isn't and it's been agreed that it shouldn't be. Given this fact, arguing against one particular spelling is pointless. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:23, 23 April 2016 (UTC)