Talk:Apropos of Nothing

Coverage of the Controversy surrounding "Apropos of Nothing"

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The controversy surrounding this book has generated an enormous amount of media coverage and op-ed pieces. A possible suggestion: We could post links to some of these articles in the "Talk" section, and then the other Wikipedia editors could decide which articles would merit being put into the main article. These articles would come from sources that fulfill the Wikipedia:RS requirement. All the sources below either have their own Wikipedia entries, or else are listed as sources in at least 10 Wikipedia articles.

Some suggestions:

From the National Post : https://nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-another-one-bites-the-dust-woody-allen-the-latest-victim-of-cancel-culture

From The Diamondback : http://dbknews.com/2020/03/08/sexual-assault-me-too-woody-allen-book-publishers-hachette-oprah-winfrey/

From Pajiba : https://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/no-hachette-cancelling-woody-allens-book-is-not-censorship.php

From the Wall Street Journal : https://www.wsj.com/articles/woody-allens-life-story-canceled-11583645773

From MovieMaker : https://www.moviemaker.com/woody-allen-cancellation-is-private-censorship-commentary/
-- 188.141.25.160 (talk) 18:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

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• More suggestions:

From Lionel Shriver in The Spectator: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-hachette-were-wrong-to-drop-woody-allens-memoir

From the American Booksellers Association: https://www.bookweb.org/news/abfe-issues-statement-hachette-decision-cancel-woody-allen-memoir-576718

From The Outline : https://theoutline.com/post/8789/woody-allen-book-hachette-walk-out?zd=2&zi=njm42a4f

From Robbie Collin in the Daily Telegraph (paywall) : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/woody-allens-influence-film-immeasurable-cant-wait-read-memoirs/

From The Times (paywall): https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/blocking-woody-allens-memoir-is-worrying-censorship-vrqh8wmbn —*
--  Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.25.160 (talk) 12:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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Article about the publication controversy from The Nation : https://www.thenation.com/article/society/allen-hachette-memoir-censorship/

Also, a review of Apropos of Nothing from the Sunday Independent (paywall): https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books/book-reviews/apropos-of-nothing-woody-allen-remains-a-great-artist-but-what-a-toxic-mess-he-left-in-his-wake-39084619.html
--188.141.25.160 (talk) 08:58, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

About the preceding, & enclosing, top level section

   Thanks to the colleague who contributed the earlier talk, and presumably major research and content for the accompanying article. I may have read the talk first, or quite plausibly i found nothing lacking in the article, as urgent as was applying wiki markup to this talk page. In any case, i saw here lots of good intention, and great lack of wiki-markup insight, and responded not with talk, but with reformatting. Kick me in my talk page, if i have not clearly enuf divined the ip-editor's probable intentions above on this page, and might better expose those intentions; i dunno enough about the topic, but i've got around 17 years of experience (mostly as the WP admin User:Jerzy) wielding wiki markup.
--JerzyA (talk) 22:32, 5 & 0:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Legal and fairness issue

 ;; I’ve lost track of whether I tagged article or talk or both, re {{reckless}}{{Unreferenced}};{{legal hazard }}, but in any case,

Added links. Also dropped red flags.

It's not clear what you are asking. I grieve in stereo (talk) 02:23, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Edits by User:Antonia Tejeda Barros

So it appears we have an issue now where a user, User:Antonia Tejeda Barros, is attempting to unfairly represent the coverage of the subject of this article (the autobiography/memoir Apropos of Nothing) all the while decrying bias of this Wikipedia article. Recent edit summaries:

“ Please do not undo. This article is completely BIAS against Woody. Apropos Of Nothing has receive only POSITIVE reviews. It's a BESTSELLER and a wonderful book. Do not contaminate Wikipedia with lynch mob attitudes. Please. Greetings & thanks."

"Please do not take out this. The book is a BESTSELLER. So much for Ronan & Mia Farrow here. Keep the important info about the book, which is about Woody Allen.

”

I have attempted with much detail, ever since the book was announced, to fairly represent everything that has occurred surrounding the book's publication, its reception, and its contents. It is fairly unhelpful when a user comes along and frivolously accuses a "completely BIAS against Woody" without any sort of details of what they specifically believe in this article constitutes bias. They have twice changed the reception section to read that this book has only received positive reviews, which is simply and patently false.

Now they are also attempting to add a quote from Jeannette Seaver, who founded Arcade Publishing, the publisher who has published Apropos of Nothing after it was dropped by Hachette. I'm not sure what her quote adds to the article, and it seems inappropriate to include it as well.

Thank you. I grieve in stereo (talk) 22:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)