Talk:Assassination of Paweł Adamowicz

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 11:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Luxtaythe2nd (talk). Self-nominated at 21:38, 7 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - vague
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Luxtaythe2nd: Good article. My main problem is that seems vague. "most of the money he'd stolen" what stolen money? That isn't elaborated on is kind of confusing. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Onegreatjoke: Would it be alright to have something like "most of the bank money he'd stolen" or "all of the bank money he'd stolen"? "All of the bank money he'd stolen" is both very interesting and factual in my opinion, since the article itself states "He stole 15920 zł (US$5036.99) in total, with only 2550 zł (US$806.8) being returned from the last robbery, during which he was stopped by police. He said that he spent the rest of the money on 'taxis, food and casinos'[.]" Since the stealing of those last 2550 zł was stopped while it was happening, I think that the latter option would satisfy both your needs of interestingness and elaboration on what money he'd stolen. Luxtay the IInd (talketh to me) 08:29, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Luxtaythe2nd: I recall surgeons tried to save Adamowicz through a long surgery after the attck but failed. Can you add this info to the article with a source? I mean, Adamowicz didn't die immediately. BorgQueen (talk) 13:09, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • @BorgQueen: That did happen and I will make sure to add that to the article, however it's not that interesting or unique to add it to the hook. Trying to save someone's life after a life-threatening event isn't that rare among surgeons/doctors to do, and such an operation can often fail (take for example James A. Garfield). Luxtay the IInd (talketh to me) 14:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • Of course. I was talking about the article, not the hook. BorgQueen (talk) 14:25, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added an alternative to the previous hook I suggested. Luxtay the IInd (talketh to me) 09:54, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: ALT1 is fine. Good to go. BorgQueen (talk) 13:46, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Luxtaythe2nd, Onegreatjoke, and BorgQueen: I don't think I approve of ALT1 – given that the robbery came five-plus years before the assassination, this hook isn't really about the assassination at all. If Stefan Wilmont is notable, this would be a great hook about him, but if the article scope is about the assassination, then we should be sticking to that. Can another hook be found? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/her) 09:22, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually I agree with you. I'll wait for the nominator's suggestions. BorgQueen (talk) 09:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Theleekycauldron: I think that there's some hookworthy material in the Assassination section itself, and the only reason that I picked the "taxis, food and a casino" part is because I had just finished editing the section that is in when I nominated the article and naturally had a bias towards that section. If ALT1 can't go through, then I suggest this alternative:

... that after a stabbing attack against Paweł Adamowicz, the Gdańsk mayor, at least 41 blood packets were used in an unsuccessful attempt to save him? Source: [2] "Wiadomo, że operacja trwała pięć godzin. - Przetoczyliśmy 41 jednostek krwi. Urazy były bardzo ciężkie; poważna rana serca, rana przepony, jamy brzusznej. O wszystkim zadecydują najbliższe godziny - przekazał lekarz."

Luxtay the IInd (talketh to me) 09:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]