Talk:Bail fund

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 16:37, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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• that an early bail fund was created in 1920 by the ACLU? [1]
  • ALT1:that community bail funds provide bail for those who can't afford it before trial? [2]

Created/expanded by Phoebe (talk). Self-nominated at 21:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - Do four-digit figures need a comma or not ($2,500 and $2000 both used)?

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - I'm not "hooked" by either of these hooks. I recommend adapting ALT0 but with some more information or an interesting detail. Here's three of my own, listed from my favourite to least favourite (all from the UCLA Criminal Justice Law Review ref). Let me know if any work for you, in which case you'll need to incorporate the relevant facts into the article:
  • ALT2: ... that one of the earliest U.S. bail funds was founded by the American Civil Liberties Union in 1920, within a year of the organization's creation? (Only eight months after the ACLU’s founding on January 19, 1920, the nascent organization, ...)
  • ALT3: ... that a bail fund was started by the American Civil Liberties Union in 1920 to release people arrested for sedition? (its plans to create a “radical bail fund” of $300,000 with the goal of “free[ing] rad-icals, prosecuted under the sedition laws . . . .”)
  • ALT4: ... that the first recorded major U.S. bail fund was started by the American Civil Liberties Union in 1920? ("The first example of a large-scale organized bail fund recorded in United States history was created in 1920 by the American Civil Liber-ties Union (ACLU)")

QPQ: None required.

Overall: We've been years overdue for this article, so thank you for your work in its creation. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 14:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Should be good to go now - I reviewed and approved ALT3, while also augmenting the article accordingly. (It has the advantage of indicating what the purpose of a bail fund is - Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia and we can't assume every reader is familiar with the concept of bail as used in the US.)

• ALT3: ... that a bail fund was started by the American Civil Liberties Union in 1920 to release people arrested for sedition? (its plans to create a “radical bail fund” of $300,000 with the goal of “free[ing] rad-icals, prosecuted under the sedition laws . . . .”)

I also formatted the four-digit figures consistently, and reverted a WP:COPYPASTE addition made after the above discussion by an IP which seems to be interested in lionizing a particular bail fund organization (however, some of that content may still be worth adding in a more neutral fashion).

Regards, HaeB (talk) 18:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey thanks @HaeB: and @Bilorv: for working on this, I'm sorry I didn't have time to get back to it! Glad it became a DYK!! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)