Talk:Baptism with the Holy Spirit/GA1

GA Review

Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch

Reviewer: Cerebellum (talk · contribs) 15:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I will be reviewing this article. --Cerebellum (talk) 15:48, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Prose/General

Bible references: 1 Cor 12:13 needs to be linked to bible gateway like the others verses. I tried to do it myself, but I couldn't get the bibleref template to work.
Prose: One view holds that the term refers only to the "once-for-all" event for the whole Church described in the second chapter of the Book of Acts. This sentence should be reworked to link to Pentecost and make it clear that Pentecost is the event described.
External links: The number of external links seems a little excessive, particularly the three videos from the same source. Can we cut the links section down to, say, 6 or 7 links?
History: The statements "Historically, Roman Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants agreed that the Church as a whole experienced baptism with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost."
Roman Catholic: The bulleted list here seems like close paraphrasing of Catechism 1303. Can you reword or remove it?

Done with everything here except the Bible reference (which I'm not sure how to fix) and the history statement. What exactly needs to happen to the statement? Ltwin (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually not sure what I meant with the history statement, probably best to just ignore that. --Cerebellum (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the template issue at Bibleref2 Platonides (talk) 14:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Broadness of coverage

Old Testament: It would be good to mention, possible in the biblical description section, how baptism in the holy spirit in the New Testament differs from the work of the holy spirit in the OT. Grudem has a good summary of this on page 770, talking about "a less powerful and less extensive work of the Holy Spirit in the old covenant." I'll leave it up to you whether you want to include this or not.

Done. ~~Still working on improving the biblical description.~~ Ltwin (talk) 08:02, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Biblical description: This section needs to be expanded. It would be great if it included semi-detailed descriptions of Pentecost, Act 8, and Acts 19. Maybe we could also have more detail on what baptism in the Holy Spirit actually entails, i.e. spiritual gifts, miracles, and power for ministry. I notice that this section relies exclusively on references to bible verses, which is okay but it might be nice to use some secondary sources as well.

Done. I plan to add a little more information to the last paragraph on what the different labels for Spirit baptism imply. Ltwin (talk) 08:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

Citation format: It's not a problem at the GA level, but if you want to improve the article further you might consider using citation templates for footnotes and also archive URLs for links.
Perspectives on Pentacost: Perspectives on Pentacost is cited several times without page numbers. Can you provide page numbers to help readers verify this information?

Unfortunately, I didn't put this information in the article. I'll try see if I can find another source who says the same thing. Ltwin (talk) 19:31, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Church of the Nazarene: For footnote #35, can you add a link to the Articles of Faith of the Church of the Nazarene if one is available? Also, the direct quotes in the second paragraph of "Wesleyanism" need to be sourced.
Dead links: There are several dead links on the page, see this report for more details.

Overall

Excellent work on this article! A very fair and balanced summary of all the major views on this topic. Just address the issues above, particularly the expansion of the biblical description section, and I will be happy to pass as GA. :) --Cerebellum (talk) 17:23, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing my concerns. Can't think of any more issues, so pass as GA. --Cerebellum (talk) 22:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]