Talk:Battle of Kenapacomaqua

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Little Turtle's Daughter

I have a history mystery that we need to untangle.
This article, as well as the article on Little Turtle, both state that Little Turtle's daughter was captured in the Battle of Kenapacomaqua. They cite the same source, Little Turtle (1752 – July 1812) from the Supreme Court of Ohio. In addition, the Little Turtle article cites pg. 158 of Frontier Indiana by Andrew R. Cayton (1996).
By contrast, the articles on William Wells and Wanagapeth states that Wells' first wife, a Wea woman, and their child were captured in the raid and perhaps presumed to be dead. Wells then joined Little Turtle in the attack on St. Clair. Wells eventually worked to free his first wife and child, but in her absence he married Wanagapeth, the daughter of Little Turtle. These articles don't cite this, but it's the version of the story given in pages 95 and 97 of William Wells and the Struggle for the Old Northwest by William Heath (2015).
I wouldn't count this as a source, but the fiction-history Heart of a Warrior by Joe Krom resolves this dilemma by splitting the difference, suggesting that another of Little Turtle's daughters- a sister of Wanagapeth- was captured at Kenapacomaqua.
So we're in yet another uncomfortable situation where different versions of history conflict, and we're left to guess which sources are more academically sound. We have to be neutral on Wikipedia, but we also have to resolve this contradiction between different articles. I'm not going to make any changes because I don't know which version is correct, but I want to at least start the conversation and get your opinions. Canute (talk) 20:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's an interesting bit of trivia. It turns out the Supreme Court of Ohio source is actually plagiarized from Little Turtle's entry in the American National Biography, written by scholar Leroy V. Eid. (You'd think the good folks at the Ohio Supreme Court would know better.) So Eid seems to be the source that Little Turtle's daughter was captured. That's a reliable source, so we can cite it, but it's possible Eid simply mistook Wells's first wife for his second. Heath's bio of Wells and Carter's bio of Little Turtle make no mention of a daughter of Little Turtle being captured here, and they certainly would have said as much if there was evidence for it. So I think we can mention Eid's comment as an aside, maybe in a footnote, but also mention that Heath and Carter don't support it. Maybe there's another source out there that supports Eid's statement that I haven't seen yet. Kevin1776 (talk) 21:20, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]