Talk:Berlin border crossings

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Original translation request from German

de:Berliner Grenzübergänge

Corresponding English-language article: Berlin Border Crossings
Worth doing because: no English equivalent
Originally Requested by: 86.136.88.187 03:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Status: Working on it, halfway done Patrick 00:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Other notes:The source text was copied to the talk page for the English article. Only use that text to continue the translation to ensure consistency. Also, please review each other's translations and try to maintain a uniform style.
Supported:(Patrick 05:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Completed. Chonak 04:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notes in progress

A snapshot of the German original article was here for translation use; since the translation is nearly done, this is no longer needed and I have removed it. Chonak 06:26, 18 June 2006

NB: A paragraph about the status of East Berlin and its citizens, commented out in the West Berlin-East Berlin section, remains to be translated. After the History section (Chronik) is completed, review against the original. Chonak 06:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The quotation marks that were around "capital of the GDR" in the intro referred to the point that that status as capital was asserted by the East German regime, but not recognized by three of the four powers with jurisdiction over Berlin. It would be good to keep that detail in by referring to, e.g., "East Berlin (declared to be the capital of the GDR)." Chonak 22:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chonak, please note, I attempted to gracefully circumvent the "trap" which prohibited the quotation marks to be retained meaningfully in the English version; to clarify that the GDR was "unrecognized" (by the FDR), I provided a link to the corresponding article, Exclusive Mandate, in German de:Alleinvertretungsanspruch. (Patrick 06:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]

This page is unclear on who could and could not cross. It says at one point west berliners could in general visit east berlin and then the next paragraph says in general west berliners could not visit east berlin. This is confusing and clearly wrong in some way.

Train crossing

A friend of mine once took the train from Poland to West Germany. As she described it, the train moved slowly across the Berlin Wall, moving only when GDR officials allowed it, while they extensively quizzed the passengers. Any portion of the train they allowed to cross was off limits to further GDR inquiries. My friend, a Canadian of Polish ancestry, was quizzed about her nationality. GBC 19:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]