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Beth Israel Synagogue, Cambridge, Massachusetts[edit]

I normally wouldn't add a red-linked item to a dablist, but since the Beth Israel Synagogue is on the List of Registered Historic Places in Cambridge, Massachusetts it should, and no doubt someday will, have its own article. Jayjg (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added other NRHP-listed ones just now, too. Redlink entries can be included in a disambiguation page according to policy at MOS:DABRL, if they are followed by a bluelink link to another wikipedia article mentioning the same redlink in context. For NRHP-listed places, this is provided by links to state or county NRHP list-articles. doncram (talk) 12:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's it mean?[edit]

OK, I am intrigued - what links all the 'Beth Israel' items apart from name? Does it have a particular meaning or connotation (moderate/philanthrpic etc. I have no idea, but I then again as a goy I can be excused I guess....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there's nothing in particular that links them, aside from the fact that it's a very popular name for synagogues: "House of Israel", about as generic a name for a synagogue as one could imagine. Jayjg (talk) 03:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Aha (belated reply), so it is a name-only association, not linked to a specific subculture e.g. conservative/orthodox/reform.(?) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User:Casliber (very very very belated reply), that's more or less correct, although my sense is that it's also a kind of old-fashioned name, much more popular in the late 19th to mid-20th century than now, so you're generally going to find it on Conservative/Reform congregations, including quite a few that used to be Orthodox. Jayjg (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(I do wonder what the longest time between wiki exchanges is...) it'd be good if there was a source that discussed it - like maybe it was a popular and nostalgic connotation for a certain period or that the original Beth Israel was particularly notable or something and add as a line or two to this page. Though of course if no-one has, then no-one has and we can't add....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look to see if there's anything that discusses it. Jayjg (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notatbility of entries; external link ones may be removed[edit]

I notice many entries are not links to wikipedia pages (as either bluelinks or redlinks), but rather are external links. This does not conform to wp:MOSDAB guidelines. All the external-link-only ones could be removed; there is no need for disambiguation of them. And, the notability of these is not apparent or asserted, so there's no support for retaining red-links for them either, I believe.

By the way, I visited here to fix up the NRHP ones (to ensure they're covered, and to provide one bluelink per NRHP entry). If there is no article yet, I provide a bluelink to an article that does refer to the place. NRHP ones' notability is established by their being NRHP-listed, hence extensive verifiable documentation is available.

Depending on any discussion here, i may go ahead and remove the external-link-only entries. doncram (talk) 09:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just removed the external and red links. As you said, MoS:DAB (and WP:BEBOLD). I still wonder if all the places that do have an article really are notable. WP:NOTYELLOW. Maybe, as many of them are NRHP-listed.--ospalh (talk) 10:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I just reconstructed the NRHP ones, including red-link ones. These are adequately supported by links to state- or county-NRHP-list-articles. Please do not rip out these again. This complies with MOS:DABRL which explicitly allows for redlinks. The disambiguation treatment of NRHP entries was discussed at the Disambiguation Wikiproject in a long discussion now archived here. If you have some general objection about NRHP redlink entries in disambiguation pages, please raise it in a general forum such at the talk page of the NRHP or Disambiguation wikiprojects, and please post notice at the Talk page of NRHP wikiproject. doncram (talk) 12:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Restructure?[edit]

I wonder if this wouldn't be better as purely a list of synagogues? The other non-temple entries would be moved to Beth Israel (disambiguation), and this would serve as just a {{synagogue disambiguation}} (possibly as Beth Israel Synagogue (disambiguation) ) or {{set index article}} page -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 12:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]