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Reviewer: Parsecboy (talk · contribs) 19:29, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll return the favor!

Prose/MoS:

 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The mdash in the intro isn't right - I'd recommend rewriting to something like "...pairs or small flocks, usually in marshy areas, rivers..."
 Done Good catch! Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...construct nests, on..." - remove the comma there
 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...white shelled, eggs..." - same here
 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...and less rate of decline" - I think "low" would be better than "less"
 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "... African black storks, by Wetlands International..." - another comma that needs to go
 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd add Carl's first name to the link, rather than just piping to Linnaeus
 Done Now there is his full name, and his nationality too. Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • In some places, I see serial commas, but not in others - best to standardize on one style.
 Done Ah, fixed that. Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...and Bangladesh.[20] Although, certain populations..." - recommend merging these two sentences, since the "although" connects it to the previous thought
 Done merged them with a comma. Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is as far as I got before I remembered to check Earwig's tool and saw the copyvio text - since the article needs to be rewritten, I'll hold off on doing any more reading for style until that's done.
  • "...Sicily - Cap Bon..." - I believe this should be an n-dash, not a hyphen, same with "Bosphorus-Sinai-Nile" further down
 Done Yep. Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Many birds are fly around the Sahara..." - something is missing here
 Done Removed "are". Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...reuse them successive years." - a word is missing here
 Done "...reuse them in successive years." Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Fledging take" -> "Fledging takes"
 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Done That was helpful. Would use it for other articles too. Thanks! Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Watch WP:ENGVAR, the heading is "Behavior" but I see a "behaviour"
 Done Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing:

  • There are a couple of short cites to Cramp, but no full citation appears - since the rest of the citations use full length citations, these ought to be converted per WP:CITEVAR
I have included the cited text below the references section. Adityavagarwal (talk) 21:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ran the article through earwig's tool here - substantial portions of the text are lifted from thainationalparks.com/species/black-stork, from before you started editing the article (in fact all the way back to the beginning of the article). The highlighted text needs to be substantially rewritten; once that's done, I can delete the old history of the article, an unfortunate necessity of the plagiarism.
  • Some citations are missing information, for instance #20, which includes only a title, year, and publisher; many citations to books lack page numbers or chapter titles
I removed reference 20 and placed another one instead, as I was not able to view the article in google books or able to find it elsewhere. Also, I think now all the references are in the format. Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage:

  • Seems good to me, though I'm by no means an expert

Neutrality:

  • No issues here

Stability:

  • No issues either

Images:

  • Images all check out, license-wise
  • There is some text sandwiching going on, probably a result of the length of the infobox and the placement of the video. This isn't a problem for GA

The biggest issue I've identified is the copyright violation - this needs to be fixed first before the review can proceed. Parsecboy (talk) 19:29, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot to pick it up for the review! Yeah, I had the same concern when I checked its copyvio status before nominating it for a review. It seems to me like thainationalpark is a wiki mirror. If you scroll down in the website, you could see "This article uses material from the Wikipedia released under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike Licence 3.0. Please see license details for photos in photo by-lines." written. Adityavagarwal (talk) 20:32, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Cas! It seems to me like thainationalparks is a wiki mirror as everything from thainational parks seem to be almost exactly in the article. Also, the website states that it uses some of the material (looks like it used everything instead of some :P) from wikipedia. What do you think? Adityavagarwal (talk) 04:19, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is not uncommon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:22, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you're quite right - I had forgotten to look at which came first. Parsecboy (talk) 14:56, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I think the article is in good shape now, so I'm happy to pass for GA. Great work! Parsecboy (talk) 18:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing:

Thanks a lot for you input. It is greatly appreciated! I reworded it a bit, and the book cites about tropical Asia and Africa, so I removed this reference. Adityavagarwal (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar

  • There's a log of switching back and forth from singular to plural references (it vs they), sometimes in the same paragraph. Pick one or the other and stick to it! MeegsC (talk) 13:27, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a bunch for your inputs! Hopefully, it is resolved now. Could you have a look at it? Thanks again. Adityavagarwal (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

More referencing

Replaced. Could you have a look again? Thanks! Adityavagarwal (talk) 16:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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