Talk:Brickell Flatiron

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Notability for this project prior to construction

An editor proposed deletion citing WP:CRYSTAL. It appears that consensus has developed that 500+ ft (150 m) skyscrapers covered by RS are presumed notable. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Skyscrapers/Archive 2#Criteria for inclusion of proposed buildings or structures. This building not only makes the criterion, but I'd argue is separately notable for becoming the tallest building in Miami. Also it's a bit more than crystal-ball as the building was reported 30% sold in February [1]. Unless there's a good counter-argument, I'm going to de-PROD. -- Brianhe (talk) 00:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the PROD is a little too much. I have copied the article text (code) and will save it so that in the case of a deletion it can be recreated when/if construction starts without having to go through and undeletion process. B137 (talk) 03:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Brianhe: I would also like to add that most tallest building featured lists seem to default to every building on the list at least having a stub article so there can be a link, a blue link. Two articles in the List of tallest buildings in Miami, Jade at Brickell Bay and The Club at Brickell Bay, have been deleted by the same user. Both are nearly 500 feet, Jade is a little more notable for being one of the first of a "boom", having structural issues, and being taller I suppose. B137 (talk) 03:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. Almost all of the first 30 hits in Google are PR-generated, but there is a Miami Herald story.[2]. It focuses on the fact that Vladislav Doronin, a Russian oligarch [3] is behind the project. Project construction is being financed by condo buyers' deposits, which is probably why it's being promoted so heavily in advance of construction. John Nagle (talk) 04:31, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes there is also some notability as the original proposal on the site extended over both lots, coming to more of a point on the smaller lot, like the Flatiron Building in New York. B137 (talk) 15:28, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Nagle: Well, I oppose the deletion for any reason so I think I should remove the tag. B137 (talk) 23:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Were initial plans scrapped?

I'm getting the impression that much of the plans in the initial pr didn't come to be. For example, was there a change in the architect? Was it more notable for the initial plans rather than what was actually built? Somehow, the article needs to clearly distinguish initial plans from what was actually built. Hopefully there are sources we can use to explain what happened. --Ronz (talk) 21:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Those should be helpful --Ronz (talk) 23:28, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another height ambiguity

The official CTBUH height is 698 ft or 213 meters. Many buildings in Miami are quoted from their height above sea level since the land is so low. This creates a 3 to 30 ft difference in above ground height. This building is on the Brickell Ridge, but not that high to explain the 730 ft height. B137 (talk) 04:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]