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Aristocratic or noble?
[edit]The Bridgertons are both. They are part of the aristocratic ruling class of the time, and since the family has a viscountcy, they are also part of nobility. I don't even know why use "aristocratic" when it's hyperlinked to "British nobility" page anyway. Maxen Embry (talk) 15:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Why does aristocratic/noble need to even be listed there? It's already noted in the Premise section, and in the historical accuracy section, we're only referring to the family in general, not their class. I think it can be just left as "Bridgerton family". Ggdeputy (talk) 00:18, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Bridgerton family tree
[edit]What's the significance of the dagger (†) against Edmund's name? I couldn't see any footnote or endnote (but maybe I didn't look closely enough). Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 23:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's a common device in "current" family trees for indicating those who are dead. This is corroborated in this narrative of nonsense by his title already having passed to his son, as well as his wife being the Dowager Viscountess. Nick Cooper (talk) 15:12, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Introduction
[edit]The introduction was debated prior, but there obviously has been a change of thought process as to the description and details of the TV show. I suggested Anglo-American TV series which better describes the nature of the show, but my edit was reverted. I would like to bring up the talk once more to see if anymore sense can be made as to the direction of the show, as the leading introduction is very misleading. It should specify British or Anglo, e.g. British regency era. Or American production, filmed in Britain with British actors and actresses. Yet there is no mention of the actors or filming locations. Anyone care to talk? Cltjames (talk) 00:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- This have been discussed before, please see Talk:Bridgerton/Archive 1#British or American?. — YoungForever(talk) 00:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- @YoungForever this is the same link I highlighted. and my argument still stands. There should be a mention in the introduction about a British cast and British filming locations. Cltjames (talk) 00:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Having a British cast and where it is filmed have nothing to do with what kind of TV series as in nationality. — YoungForever(talk) 00:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- The lead is misleading, it should clearly state the TV series has nothing to do with America. There should be a note or a sentence about the cast and the filming locations for clarity reasons. Cltjames (talk) 14:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- It is an American TV series that is about British regency era. This is not like The Crown, The Crown is a co-production between the United Kingdom and United States. — YoungForever(talk) 22:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've added a sentence under production explaining the production company, and also a similar sentence in the lead. All referenced, please leave, no need for an edit war as it is correctly sourced and WP:DUE. Describing Bridgerton as an American TV series, is not a neutral, explaining it is produced by Netflix UK is a key piece of information. Please talk, and do no revert. Cltjames (talk) 04:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am not the editor that most recently reverted you FYI. Please take a look at the page history again. — YoungForever(talk) 05:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've added a sentence under production explaining the production company, and also a similar sentence in the lead. All referenced, please leave, no need for an edit war as it is correctly sourced and WP:DUE. Describing Bridgerton as an American TV series, is not a neutral, explaining it is produced by Netflix UK is a key piece of information. Please talk, and do no revert. Cltjames (talk) 04:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- It is an American TV series that is about British regency era. This is not like The Crown, The Crown is a co-production between the United Kingdom and United States. — YoungForever(talk) 22:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- The lead is misleading, it should clearly state the TV series has nothing to do with America. There should be a note or a sentence about the cast and the filming locations for clarity reasons. Cltjames (talk) 14:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Having a British cast and where it is filmed have nothing to do with what kind of TV series as in nationality. — YoungForever(talk) 00:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- @YoungForever this is the same link I highlighted. and my argument still stands. There should be a mention in the introduction about a British cast and British filming locations. Cltjames (talk) 00:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
I’m the editor who reverted you. As mentioned earlier, cast and location have no bearing on country of origin. Bridgerton is produced by two American production companies for Netflix, the American streaming network that distributes it. There is no mention of Netflix UK in the credits. As I noted in an edit summary, this strikes me as an effort to make British a production that simply isn’t. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 09:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Drmargi I found a reference stating Netflix studios UK. This cannot be any clearer. Do you want me to find another reference?? I reiterate, the lead is misleading, I believe the UK filming locations or cast should be mentioned to further explain the production. Can I get another opinion instead of 1 person please?? Cltjames (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I read your source. It doesn't say what you think it does. It simply says Netflix Studios UK (capitalize Studios) is "responsible for" a couple series including Bridgerton. That's a long way from your assertion that it produces the show, especially given the credits, which are the best source, say otherwise. Yes, the show has British cast and British locations. But the production companies (Shondaland and CVD Productions) and distributor (Netflix) are American, as are most if not all of the executive producers. You just aren't making a case that this is a British show; it's an American show with a British cast and locations. We're going to see this sort of thing more and more as co-productions and international locations become more commonplace. I fail to see your point that it's somehow unclear that the cast is British, etc. much less that it's somehow not neutral to state the show is American when that's exactly what it is. You're simply not making your case. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 19:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Drmargi it's simply the lead doesn't mention the cast and locations. Therefore, because of the complexity of the show's situation regarding a trans Atlantic team, it only makes sense to further better explain the context in the lead. I don't see a reason to reject this idea so much. You have to see it from a neutral point of view WP:DUE, as now it's misleading. Cltjames (talk) 20:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I read your source. It doesn't say what you think it does. It simply says Netflix Studios UK (capitalize Studios) is "responsible for" a couple series including Bridgerton. That's a long way from your assertion that it produces the show, especially given the credits, which are the best source, say otherwise. Yes, the show has British cast and British locations. But the production companies (Shondaland and CVD Productions) and distributor (Netflix) are American, as are most if not all of the executive producers. You just aren't making a case that this is a British show; it's an American show with a British cast and locations. We're going to see this sort of thing more and more as co-productions and international locations become more commonplace. I fail to see your point that it's somehow unclear that the cast is British, etc. much less that it's somehow not neutral to state the show is American when that's exactly what it is. You're simply not making your case. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 19:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: LIT 3319 Contexts
[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 2 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Mxt210039, SydneyTao (article contribs).
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Should there be separate articles for each season?
[edit]Not that it matters much to me, but the cast section is getting clogged with new people and some not returning each season(Rege, Shelley Conn and Charithra). The episode list and summaries are also getting large. Kay girl 97 (talk) 17:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is currently not enough to split. Per MOS:TVSPLIT and Wikipedia:Article splitting (television), it is not enough to split until the main article is
between 50kB and 60kB of readable prose
orbetween 50 and 60 episodes
. Currently, the readable prose is 28 kB and nowhere near 50 episodes. — YoungForever(talk) 17:56, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
TYPO??
[edit]"Adjoa Andoh as Lady Agatha Danbury, the sharp-tongued, insightful doyenne of London society who is known for her clever manipulations of the ton."
What is "the ton" and how is it manipulated? I suspect this must be a typo. Anyway it's unclear, to say the least. Someone who knows what this means, please correct or translate.2600:6C50:800:DC1:9967:4123:D9D7:505A (talk) 03:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added a link to Ton (society) since there did not seem to be anything explaining "the ton". Abjurer Zna (talk) 20:47, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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