Talk:British Rail Class 23

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Clarification[edit]

The article states

Many engines seized because the shaft driving the auxiliaries from the engine snapped and whipped round, rupturing coolant hoses

1. Rotating shafts dont usually "whip round" when broken. 2. If the auxillary power was cut - you'd know - you wouldn't (be able) to keep the engine the engine running until it seazed. 3. ?

So what does the source actually say because this sounds like exaggeration (ie a fishy story)

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FengRail (talk) 00:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

removed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_Class_23&diff=281965220&oldid=277637662

The reference was Webb, Brian ; The Deltic locomotives of British Rail ; publisher=David & Charles ; isbn=0-7153-8110-5 ;

Even if one book says exactly this I would still need convincing - the cause and effect just sounds like the nature of the problem has become confused - chinese whispers perhaps, or incorrect synthesis?FengRail (talk) 21:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question - what exactly does the book say.FengRail (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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New photo?[edit]

Is this a class 23, behind the Deltic? 1974 pic. Presumably D5909, as it's in Rail Blue. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No... the loco behind the Deltic (headcode 3D06) is either a class 45 or a class 46; it's difficult to tell which, since although only D166-93 (later 46029-56) were built with this style of headcode box (all four characters in a single box), between 60 and 70 of the earlier locos (incl. all of 46001-28) were modified to this style. The one behind that (headcode 0M25) is a class 25. The one to the left (where only half is visible) is a class 40. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mmmm.... I think you're right - from the larger window frames. What set me thinking was that the nose bonnet looked too short for most of the others, like the 37s. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The 45s and 46s (and the 44s which were very similar) were a BR design, whereas the 37s were an English Electric design, as were the 40s - I don't think that the design engineers exchanged specifics.

This pic and this pic both show a class 45 almost broadside on, showing the nose length; unfortunately there's no 37 around to compare it with. However, this photo shows a Class 45 at a three-quarter-broadside, and conveniently there is a class 37 poking into the frame at left; note that the 37 nose is both longer and higher. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]