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Splitting the Article
Since the bugbears of legend are little like the ones of D&D, I'd suggest making a separate article for the D&D version, called Bugbear (Dungeons & Dragons)
The pronunciation of "bear" sounding like "bar" isn't limited to "rednecks" (offensive cultural label) but is widespread through the American South and Midwest. Perhaps a less offensive, more linguistically accurate annotation could be put on the bullet item, or the parenthetical comment removed altogether.
I've heard of a moss parasite known as a bug-bear. It is microscopic, has six limbs and curls up in a ball retracting its' legs and excreting most of its' liquids. Any one know what its' proper name is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Starting a new Merger Proposal, this time to Bogeyman. (Not sure what to do with the discussion from the previous merge proposal, which seems to be to Bugbear (Dungeons & Dragons)? It never got closed out.) Here is my reasoning. There is nothing, that I can find in my sources, that separates a Bugbear from other "Bogeyman" type creatures (aka Bugaboo, Buca-Boo, Bugan, Bugs, Bogeys, etc) that are described in the Bogeyman article. My copy of Briggs (Katharine Briggs, An Encyclopedia of Fairies, Hobgoblins, Brownies, Bogies, and Other Supernatural Creatures, "Bugs, bugs-a-boos, boggle-boos, bugbears, etc", p.52) which also groups these things together, describes all of these creatures as generic "Nursery bogies", which is what the Bogeyman article here describes. Bogeyman already mentions Bugbear. I'd suggest a redirect. Bugbear probably does merit its own paragraph instead of just a mention in a list, so copy this paragraph over there with some edits. If any pop culture links are needed, make this a disambiguation page, linking to Bogeyman and the two pop culture links. If someone has a few sources that depict this creature as somehow unique and deserving of its own page, I'd happily be convinced to keep it.lunaverse (talk) 03:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- I guess it depends on which way we merge - it is true that if we look at it from a folklore POV then we have a whole bunch of synonyms as mentioned above. However if we merge with the modern fantasy concept, then we have a specific giant goblinoid creature, which would be distinct from the others. So the below is my preference. So I will tweak after I edit this section. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the cleanup help. :) There appears to already be an article on Bugbear as a fantasy concept, e.g.:Bugbear (Dungeons & Dragons). This article as it stands, currently is about the folklore concept with pointers to the articles on the modern fantasy creature. I do a lot of folklore research, and my take on it is that "Bogeyman" is the more widely-used term, and Bugbear is just a different word for that concept. Briggs agrees with me in her book. lunaverse (talk) 20:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- As below. My opinion is that the bugbear article is not a bugbear-but-minus-references-from-popular-culture article. Better one more robust article than two stubby pages about a folkloric and fictional critter subdivided by an arbitrary definition of popular culture. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose this option. There are other articles in the Wikipedia namespace in which the versions, mythological and Dungeons & Dragons, have their own separate articles. For example: Selkie and Selkie (Dungeons & Dragons), and if you look at these two articles, these are two completely different "beings" as they do not resemble each other at all. A conversation regarding this option belongs elsewhere so a precedent can be set for that option, somewhere such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons. Steel1943 (talk) 20:40, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- The modern use of the word "bugbear" distinguishes this from an article about Boogeymen.
This original research was previously in the article:
2 Kings 2 in the bible
The prophet Elisha is made fun of by some young lads in the bible. In response, He curses them in the name of the Lord and two female bears come out of the woods and kill 42 of their number. I am curious to know if the bugbear myth might be related to that incident. It would be interesting to know, as bogeyman may come from bugbear. I googled but saw nothing conclusive so thought I would say something here and maybe someone more knowledgable would respond. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 18:43, 5 October 2016 (UTC)