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Comparison with CSI Vegas[edit]

Is there a perceived difference between the different CSI shows, stylistically, treatment of themes, or in any other way? Hakluyt bean 13:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

It might be something worth researching. Personally, i think the Miami version quickly went from a prettier version of CSI (Vegas) to something more in keeping with the Michael Mann Miami Vicedays. I cannot say its an improvement. I always thought the series wwas to focus around the evidence, and the characters' lives were secondary. This holds true int he other two series but not here. I think it suffers for the reliance on weak characterization and back story.Arcayne 08:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion, each of the CSIs has a different focus (and catchphrase!). Gil Grissom is constantly saying "follow the evidence," so I think of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation as focusing mostly on the science and techniques used to catch criminals. Horatio Caine of CSI: Miami always says, "We never close." There's a great deal of emphasis on action, explosions, and excitement. And for CSI: NY, good old Mac Taylor professes "Everything is connected." I think it is the closest of the CSIs to a pure detective drama, just finding out who the bad guy is. Just as an example of how the shows are different from each other: throughout the entire first season of CSI: NY, Mac wears a suit and tie and we don't see a problem. But when Keppler (Liev Schreiber) shows up on the original in similar attire, he gets funny looks from everyone. DreamroseTavua 21:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
If anything, CSI:M's catchphrase is simply "I'm going to get you", which Horatio says, in one way or another, in almost every episode. The principal difference between CSI:LV and CSI:M is teamwork vs. leadership, respectively, and this is reflected in the considerably more fractious and divisive nature of the team on CSI:M. CSI:NY seems to be between the two, but I haven't thought about it as much. I could say that CSI:NY seems to be about personalities (plural) and their interplay, CSI:M about the dominant singular personality of Caine and its interaction with various subordinate personalities, and CSI:LV about the emergent supra-personality of a cooperative group, all of whose individual personalities form parts of a more cohesive whole (which, not surprisingly, makes it still the most popular of the related series, at least last that I checked).
Just my take though. I think it would enhance all three main articles to have some sourced material on the topic of the differences between the three shows. I'm sure professional media analysts/critics have far more insightful things to say than I do. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Duquesne's rank[edit]

Unresolved: Duquesne's rank not sourceably determined yet.

Can anyone confirm Calleigh Duquesne's rank? Other contributers say that she is a lieutenant now (i.e., Horatio's rank). Is this true? If so, in what episode did her promotion take place? DreamroseTavua 20:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, some person keeps "fixing" my edits re: Calleigh, insisting that she's now a SERGEANT!...only Rex Linn's character(Frank Tripp) is a sergeant now...Michaela92399 (talk) 02:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Michaela, I just redid this again, after some person who thinks he's a die-hard fan keeps "insisting" that she's a SERGEANT!...I agree with you:only Frank Tripp is a sergeant, NOT Calleigh!
I'll keep watch on this page to make sure that Calleigh remains a CSI Level 3 and NOT a sergeant!...hope you don't mind...
Here you go...Baldwin91006 (talk) 20:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I have just undid the "Detective Sergeant" edit again. The person who does this likely remembers when Caine was out of town and Calleigh filled in for him. At the time someone made a comment about whether she would be "Lt. Duquesne" soon. I believe the editers changing her rank think that meant she must have already been a sergeant - yet it only meant she was being teased by her co-workers about temporarily filling Caine's shoes. Bloo (talk) 02:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
If you see Season 6 first episode Rio Dan Cooper Brendan Fehr called her Lt.Duquesne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex_Caine (talkcontribs) 09:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
As explained above, he was referring to Caine being out of town and Calleigh being in charge. She has never even taken the test to be promoted to Sergeant. Come up with a real citation she is a Lt. Not just an interpretation based on a minor character's comment. Belle (talk) 01:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
refering to USA federal law calling someone with higher or lower rank is crime and sometimes may take to high sentences. so you want to say that in a well known TV show they make this kind of mistakes???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex_Caine (talkcontribs) 11:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
The show takes a number of dramatic liberties with reality. Further, Cooper could have made an honest mistake, thinking she was promoted in Caine's absence, or he could have used it as a point of reference, saying to think about the responsibilities that the lieutenant who heads the department and not to think like she's just a detective. To use one address by another officer as evidence of a promotion is synthesis of a pretty strong degree. —C.Fred (talk) 14:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
hey man you just say that something could meant something. stop saying it. the only thing that we know is that he called her Lt. so she is a Lt. if you have something that proves she is not Lt. then bring it on. if in future reveald that she is not Lt. we can change the title. now please do not get involve in an edit conflict...Alex_Caine (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Alex_Caine
In the future, please slow down and re-read what you are posting before you post it. Your statement makes no sense. One character referring to Duquesne as a Lt. does not make her a Lt. When something happens on the show that officially establishes that she is a Lt., we can change it. Until then, in my opinion, her designation should stand as is.TheBigFish (talk) 02:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
pleas read other comments to.... i said its against the law to call someone with higher or lower rank according to federal law. they have never made such a amature mistake before.everything in this TV show have been writen by Expert writers belive me they wrote this sentence just to tell that she IS LT., i will stop reverting this if you show me just a small point that shows in this serie they have done somthing against the law or reality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex_Caine (talkcontribs) 12:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Three points. First, CSI: Miami is a work of fiction, and there are many items that are not given authentic real-world treatment for the sake of good television. (My sister could probably write a book about the things they do wrong from a lab science perspective.) Second, what federal law indicates that it is illegal to refer to a local authority per an incorrect rank? Finally, although citing lines from the show is valid sourcing, the preponderance of the evidence in lines from the show is that she is not a lieutenant, and trying to rationalize it based on outside items such as the alleged federal law about ranks is synthesis. —C.Fred (talk) 14:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Alex - In the episode you are referring to, Dan Cooper said to Calleigh "are we going to start calling you Lt DuQuesne now?" as she was the acting head of the lab while Caine was in Brazil. He did NOT actually call her Lieutenant. She has never been promoted, she never took the tests, and continuing to put in in edits does not make it true! Also, it is against American law to impersonate someone of another rank in the military, and I am not sure where you are getting your other information. Please stop changing the rank. I'm sorry, but you are not correct this. Trista (talk) 20:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Episode references[edit]

The references to the episodes need to be consistent. Currently, they are formatted in a few different ways. We should probably standardize them. Each episode reference should have the episode in quotes. I don't have time to do it now, just throwing it out there. One of us will get to it! --EmmSeeMusic 22:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Are they consistent now? If so, please mark this with {{Resolved}} and archive it. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


Unresolved: The statement remains in the article, but is disputed.

According to the Guiness World Records 2008, CSI: Miami is the world's most popular tv show based on TV ratings of 20 countries, followed by Lost and Desperate Housewives. Is this article worthy?
I will post a scan of the page if requested but its probably copyrighted so I don't know whether I should or not. If you have the Guiness World Records 2008 its on page 184.
Spirallingspirit (talk) 21:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Its totally based on a simple for-fun list of shows who are in 20 random countries' top ten lists. In all likelihood, CIA Miami is not the number 1 show in any of those countries. It can hardly hit the top 10 on its home US network. The 'survey' is not scientific at all, and should not be used to claim superiority for this show. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 11:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

"Staged by Caine"[edit]

Unresolved: Source provided in talk but not in article.

"however it is believed this is staged by Caine so he may more easily go after Ron Saris" – Is there anything resembling a source for this, or is it just random speculation? Zazaban (talk) 05:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

it is confirmed in CBS's behind the scenes video where David Caruso says "Horatio designed a staging of an event that will free him up to go after this man with a different license."
MyView (talk) 03:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Then source this in the article, and please mark this with {{Resolved}} and archive it. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The Strip[edit]

Unresolved: Probable original research removed, but possibly restorable with external sources.

I have removed the following from the article:

"Australian television drama The Strip takes much inspiration from CSI: Miami and is photographed with similar images of sparkling surf, aerial shots of buildings and golden sands. The drama series is shot in the Gold Coast, which is like Miami in Australia."

A visual similarity and a personal opinion that the Gold Coast is "like Miami" does not justify a whole section in this article devoid of supporting references as to the inspiration for the Australian show. - Mark 14:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Concur; blatant original research. It probably is actually true, but we need a third-party source to say it. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The music (not just The Who)[edit]

These shows are heavily pop-music-intensive, featuring works that are all over the map from material newly created for the show, to underground notables, to electronica club hits, to rock/pop/soul/R&B classics, but nothing of note is said at any of the three main CSI-franchise articles about the music (other than The Who's intro/outro snippets). This seems to be a glaring omission. The music is such an integral part of all three shows, especially in scenes showing the commissions of crimes, the "science stuff" in the lab (usually overlaid with some form of techno), and the close-in on the killer.

[Aside: For my own part, I want to know about the droning, intensely-building background theme used in two CSI:M season 6 episodes, including the end of the S06E21 season finale (Caine's shooting, while waiting for Kyle and his mom at the airport), that appears to be either a remix, remake or ripoff of the main theme from 28 Days Later and its sequel. I have that version, but I'd love to grab the CSI version as well, as it is less "guitar-fuzzy" and to me more plaintive and emotional.]

SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 10:56, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Series 6 Region 2 full DVD[edit]

It is availible from 27/07/2009[1] but in the article it says TBA which it is not. Somebody should update this.-- (talk) 13:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Sean "P.Diddy" Combs[edit]

Why isn't he listed in the CSI Miami characters article? Shouldn't he be consider a recurring cast member as of March 2, 2009 episode? (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Because two appearances in seven seasons not qualify as be a "recurring character" - but does get him "special guest star" status because of his fame. Bloo (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Alex Woods return in Season 8[edit]

Resolved: It's already aired, and the material was correct; she's appeared in several S08 episodes.

It has not been announced that Khandi Alexander is returning as Alex Woods in Season 8, and unless that can be proved by providing a link, please don't add the name in. Thanks!

New season episodes with no citations[edit]

Perhaps someone can assist me here. There are episode lists for the new seasons of all the CSI shows (and also Law & Order) with summaries included and no citations aside from blogs and Twitter pages, which anyone can put up claiming they are a member of the production cast. I see these as violations of WP: Crystal, and think they should be removed. I would be more than happy to see an opinion from an admin - and if they do not agree, I will shut up about it. But truly, shouldn't there be better citations for these pages? Also, shouldn't we wait until a character actually shows up in the main credits before listing him/her and a description of them - especially with no citation than perhaps blogs/Twitter? Thank you. TristaBella (talk) 22:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Awards and nominations[edit]

I think that someone should update, and improve the is section. Thank you. Mr. Chicago (talk) 19:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Poor Video Quality[edit]

Does anyone know why the video quality of Miami is so poor compared to the original? Orange skin tones and virtually everything else in bright red, bright green or bright blue. It looks like is was shot on dated film which was then badly processed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:20, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Because that is the look they are going for. Please try to think. Do you think they looked at the video and said "Wow, that's effed up, but let's just go with it"? You have to use filters and jiggle color settings to get that. Please try to think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

MfD of old archive of removed trivia, Talk:CSI: Miami/Trivia[edit]

Talk:CSI: Miami/Trivia, a sub page of this talk page, has been nominated for deletion. Please consider participating in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:CSI: Miami/Trivia Thank you.

--SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


Shouldn't there be something in here about the show's distinctive intro (taking off sunglasses in the middle of a one-liner right before the song starts) and how popular and frequently parodied it is? If it's in the David Caruso article, it should definitely be here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:14, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree, this is necessary (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC).


Natalia, Walter, Jesse, etc. are all Detective, MDPD Guidelines states an Officer that does not wear a uniform is a Detective. Is there any opposition to me changing this? Jane Rizzoli (talk) 18:21, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

There are plain clothes units in multiple forces, including MDPD, that are not detective bureaus Pat (talk) 22:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Region 2 Half season DVD's Info[edit]

i just noticed that the info about the 2 part region 2 dvd releases (e.g. release dates) have been removed from the table, surely these coloumns should still be included but just left blank from series 7 onwards as the info is still valid for season before 7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

UK airdates[edit]

Why do people always list the UK airdates of TV shows - who cares? It's an American series, only the U.S. airdates matter. Are we to list when it was broadcast in every country? (talk) 01:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Final Season[edit]

Mr Davejohnsan shall maybe take away his hands from the pot, when you don't have any reasons to delete the Final Season 10 and the release date! It is information about the release on: /, and their info is from the studio!!!Vuono (talk) 07:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

You didn't provide a reference; that was why I reverted your edit. Davejohnsan (talk) 15:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Why have you NOT deleted the other seasons DVD release date, no reference on them either????!!!! Just stupid!! Vuono (talk) 07:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
The others have been released. The Season 10 DVD hasn't, and requires a reliable source as to its release date. BTW, its unlikely the studio provides DVD release dates to a commercial seller. Far more likely it comes from the company producing the DVD. --Drmargi (talk) 08:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
This is very clear info. Read!

C.S.I.: Miami - Street Date is Scheduled for the 10th and 'Final Season' **UPDATE: Basic Extras Info** The last season of the Florida-based spin-off is in stores this September Posted by David Lambert 6/25/2012

We reported back in late April that C.S.I.: Miami - The Complete 10th Season is coming to DVD from CBS/Paramount, and that the title was listed for pre-order at Amazon, discounted from its $64.99 SRP. No in-store date was available at the time, but today the studio has announced that it's scheduled for September 25th. They've also renamed this item to "C.S.I.: Miami - The Final Season." Package art is below; other details still aren't available just yet, but stay tuned!

UPDATE (6/26): The studio has provided details to retailers which includes basic info about bonus material: "This 5-disc set includes all of the gripping episodes from the Tenth Season, plus exclusive special features (Deleted Scenes, Gag Reel, Featurettes). Ubisoft CSI: Miami Facebook game Insert and Trailer included on DVD. Notable Guest Stars include Raquel Welch and Malcolm McDowell (Entourage, Heroes)."

Taken from: (talk) 09:42, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

The CSI Movie - Crisis[edit]

Shown on UK TV (29th June 2013 and 7th Aug 2013). This is actually 5-14 and 5-15 as a single episode and cut down to 1h18m (time without ads). No connection with the possible movie trailed by William Peterson. Shannock9 (talk) 10:57, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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The series, starring...[edit]

Hi. While I realize that Kim Delaney was, as you said, the "original female lead", her character was only present for the first 10 episodes of the first season. Adam Rodriguez was in the series from season to 10, 221 episodes total. As long as her role is listed in the cast/character section, I firmly believe that's enough attention drawn to her.

You mentioned the article reflects the whole history of the series. You're right, the article definitely should. But with Kim Delaney listed in the intro and not Adam Rodriguez, it puts more emphasis on the early few episodes and not on the series overall. 221 episodes for Rodriguez over 10 seasons and 10 episodes for Delaney over half a season = his role is much more significant to the series overall. Anyone who watches only season 2-10 would probably never even hear about her character.

You wrote that Rodriguez was a "supporting actor". And while that's true, whether someone is supporting or lead doesn't affect if they are "starring" on a series or not. He was one of the main people starring on the show throughout its run, which is what the intro should reflect, not whether someone was a "lead" or "supporting" actor - and especially not removing someone who was prominently featured, despite being supporting, for 10 years.

I'm going to remove the starring sentence from the intro for now. Please don't re-add it until you have replied to me here and we have resolved the disagreement. The sentence isn't extremely important to the intro, so it doesn't need to be re-added until we come to an agreement here in the talk page. LocalNet (talk) 11:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Kim Delaney was the series lead for only ten episodes, but she was the series lead nonetheless. If you include Adam Rodriguez, you set a precedent that then merits the inclusion of Jonathan Togo, Khandi Alexander, etc. I'm happy with one of three compromises (1) "The series, starring David Caruso and Emily Procter", (2) "The series, starring David Caruso", or (3) "The series, starring David Caruso, Emily Procter, Kim Delaney, and Adam Rodriguez" --Unframboise (talk) 10:40, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
In that case, I suggest "The series, starring David Caruso". He is by far the most known person of the cast for his character in this series. Agreed? LocalNet (talk) 10:54, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Definitely, nice doing business with you! --Unframboise (talk) 11:45, 1 May 2016 (UTC)