Talk:City University of New York Public Safety Department
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Power and authority
[edit]For quality and accuracy, I believe, in apparent conflict with User talk:Magnolia677, that this article needs to emphasize the power reduction of CUNY Peace Officers off-campus. Right now, it says, "When peace officers are outside their geographic area of employment, but still within the state of New York, their powers are reduced and they are only permitted to make felony arrests if the offense is committed in their presence and the arrest is made during or immediately following such act." However true this may be, it is still incomplete and somewhat misleading. They are, indeed, permitted to make felony arrests off-campus, but that is not a privilege they acquire from their status as Peace Officers. Under NYS CPL 140.30, all citizens can make arrests for felonies. The article should state explicitly that CUNY Peace Officers become ordinary citizens when they leave the boundary of CUNY Campuses. 108.41.160.197 (talk) 00:18, 12 October 2014 (UTC) User talk:108.41.160.197
User talk:108.41.160.197 has made a number of edits today which appear to not be supported by the sources that editor has provided. Specifically, User talk:108.41.160.197 stated here that "nearly all CUNY Peace Officer arrests occur for drug possessions", and also that "each individual CUNY college will make only 1-3 arrests in a typical year". To support their edit, that editor added this source, which is a link to the university's 2014 Crime Report. On p. 32, a chart lists several classes of crime, and clearly shows that they were reported to multiple law enforcement agencies. So, stating "nearly all CUNY Peace Officer arrests occur for" is not supported by the source provided (maybe NYPD made all the arrests?) This editor also stated that the campus police made "nearly all" their arrests for "drug possessions". According to that same 2014 chart on p. 32, the only "arrests" listed are for liquor and drug offenses, and again, it does not state "who" did the arresting. I have reverted this edit, and welcome the input from other editors. Thank you in advance if I have missed something. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:34, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Regarding CUNY Campus Peace Officer authority off campus/off duty: The powers of a peace officer within the state of New York are defined in the NYS CPL. CUNY Campus Peace Officers arrest powers change only outside of the geographical area of employment. The GAOE of all officers is the City of New York (the 5 boroughs). That change does not make them ordinary citizens because all members of this service maintain their law enforcement status off duty and are required to follow department rules, regulations and established arrest procedures for off duty enforcement activity. Civilians would not be expected to know or follow any structured arrest procedure. An arrest by a Peace officer or police officer is not the same as an arrest by a private citizen when the officer is acting outside of his/her GAOE. Jonny8630 (talk) 05:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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