Talk:Camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church

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This page refers to the hammer as golden, while the Papal election page refers to it as silver. Which is correct?

Head of state?[edit]

Okay, I see that the Camerlengo does not act as head of the church or the holy see during the interregnum, but I feel like I've read that they are in charge of the Vatican City. Does anybody know for sure? john k 20:56, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

according to Universi Dominici Gregis, the Camerlengo, the former Cardinal Secretary of State, and the former President of the Pontifical Commission for Vatican City State form a Commission with some of the powers of the head of state of the Vatican. The Carmerlengo is also on the Particular Congregation of the College of Cardinals (made up of the Carmerlange and one cardinal of each order, chosen by lot every three days), which handles other functions of the head of state, especially during the election, to keep everyday distractions from the rest of the college. In both cases, major decisions must be approved by the whole college, and are only temporary unless approved by the new pope. Gentgeen 22:44, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Query as to name of present camerlengo[edit]

The present text shows the present camerlengo as having been appointed by John-Paul II. Is the same camerlengo continuing under the present pope Benedict? If not, please update the article.

Angels & Demons[edit]

Do you think it would be appropriate to mention Angels and Demons (with Camerlengo Carlo Ventresca) by Dan Brown in this article? WBHoenig 13:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

No. Str1977 (smile back) 08:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be appropriate, since it is the most prominent instance of a camerlengo in popular culture. 14:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)Radek
The most prominent instance of a Camerlengo in pop culture would be Cardinal Somalo, whose time as acting supervisor for the Vatican was seen on TV by well over 2 billion people. Brown's story hasn't nearly the same amount of attention. Besides, I don't think adding popular culture references is at all practical. I never got the point of that. Nobody seriously looks at an encyclopedia to find pop culture. That's what the TV and bubblegum websites are for.J.J. Bustamante 11:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Personally I think it would be a good inclusion, especially since the movie is coming out which will exponentially increase the "pop-culture" attention towards this office. Also worth a note is the fact that in the book it says the chamberlain is always a regular priest, whereas in actuality it is a Cardinal. Considering many people will be coming to this page after the movie (I only came here off the link from the novel's page) I'm sure that it is a fair inclusion. --Estrill5766 (talk) 15:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Yup, Angels & Demons is on right now, and that's why I'm looking this up. -- (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
  • More than a year after somebody added the preceding comment, I came here because I first heard of Camerlengo in Angels and Demons, which I watched about 30 minutes ago on DVD. To claim that it's not practical to include it because it's "popular culture" is arrogant and condescending. The fact that the movie has encouraged people to read the article is the only qualification necessary for its inclusion. As for the suggestion that the most prominent instance of a Camerlengo in pop culture is Cardinal Somalo, I have never heard of him. 2602:304:AE25:BAD9:8448:2873:65E1:2226 (talk) 04:45, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I rewrote this info to make it more encyclopedic in tone. It would really help to find a reference that discusses the inaccuracies of Brown's and the film's portrayals of the office. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 16:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Camerlengo of ... ?[edit]

The article called the office treated under point 1 the "Camerlengo of the Roman Catholic Church", which raised my suspicions as RCC is a common term for the "Catholic Church that is in communion with the successor of Saint Peter" but not an official name of that body. I queried the Catholic Encyclopdia on this, which yielded "Camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church". This clarifies matters. The Camerlengo is an office of the Roman Church, the diocesis of Rome, and not of the entire worldwide Catholic Church (though the Church of Rome certainly is special). Hence I changed to wording to "Camerlengo of the Roman Church" (the Holy I dropped as certainly it would raise objections and is not actually needed here) Str1977 (smile back) 08:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Camerlengo reappointed[edit]

The Camerlengo isn't suspended when Pope dies; so Cardinal Somalo was not riappointed by Pope Benedict (see [1]). Tavyrob 12:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)