Talk:Capel Lligwy

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Date	Process	Result
March 24, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 22, 2011.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after a fox took shelter in the ruins of Capel Lligwy (pictured), in Anglesey, north Wales, a vault was discovered containing "a large mass of human bones, several feet in depth"?

Trivia[edit]

Please don't add trivia sections, per WP:TRIVIA. In any event, discogs.com is not a reliable source since it is "a user-built database". Bencherlite ^Talk 18:48, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is ridiculous, this is basically you deciding that only you can have your say about this matter, a released album is part of North Wales' rich culture, so i suggest you don't act like a little Hitler, and act more like a teacher, teaching me how also ton contribute, which is what Wikipedia is all about. This album contains a lot of Wales' most prominent musicians, including Gruff Rhys, arguably the area's most popular musician, and you are denying people from learning more about this area than you know. Edit information wiser i say, if you can't find a better source to replace it with online, you have no place sharing information with anyone, it's an album release, i can send you a copy if you want, or i can put a photo up showing the credits. I suggest you help edit the section not delete it and deprive people of knowledge.

This is a Guardian article about it from the time http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/1999/may/31/artsfeatures.echoandthebunnymen read "But perhaps the most rewarding sessions took place at Din Lligwy, a burial chamber. "We had that idea after recording in the crypt,".". And this was easily googlable, and you didn't bother. Some guardian of knowledge...! More -

http://adamthomaswalton.co.uk/?this_blog=84 This is Adam Walton's page when it came out - he is BBC Wales's popular Welsh music broadcaster and calls this album "1999's best album by a Welsh country mile, even mentions "burial chamber recordings" in this article.

Please do not deny us our heritage, and culture, we have rights to it, and rights to talk about it.

You're an editor, not a deletor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.146.243 (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a fact, this album was part recorded there, and this is our culture, i my entire family have lived in this area forever, and nothing as exciting as this has happened in that church for a long time. Get with the times, and put the information back under "In Popular Culture". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.146.243 (talk) 19:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, ignoring the fact that you lost the argument by virtue of Godwin's Law, thank you for the Guardian link; that's much better. I've added a long sentence to the "history" section of the article, which I hope makes you happier. It would be inappropriate to say more about the group or the album in the article about the chapel - it would be giving it undue weight, i.e. it would unbalance the article, which is about the chapel not the band or the album. In fact someone could probably write an article about The Serpents or even the album itself if there's a bit more out there like the Guardian article (a source that is like gold dust compared to the crap that's usually used as sources for articles on bands!) That's where any more details should go. Bencherlite ^Talk 23:48, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Godwin's Law refers to "Hitler and the Nazis", i was referring to the term "little Hitler", which is common parlance for someone abusing authority, as per this Wikipedia page which equates it to the term "Jobsworth" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobsworth. Was more of a comparison between you and all the other little Hitlers than a comparison between you and Hitler per se. ;-) Your edit is far better, this is all i ask for, people put information up, and editors research and edit. Editing without research is sabbotage as far as i can see. We don't all have the time to be editing, i gave what i knew to be fact, i left trimming and pruning to you, but to offer the biggest cultural event to take place there that we know of in the past 150 years, and have it deleted without looking into it is not right, and it makes the island look a bit less interesting, culturally, i think. Anyway, thank you, messing about aside, it's a great article about the chapel, thanks for your contribution to the knowledge available about our locality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.157.4 (talk) 10:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]