Talk:Carex rupestris
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[edit]ArthurTheGardener, good job on the updates! The collapsible synonym list is a nice touch, and important. You formatted it well. Synonym lists can be complicated, especially when a species has subtaxa, and this one does. I see that the Subtaxa were already listed in the article. They need to be in the Species box, and they can also be in the article in more detail for a future upgrade. They can stay as they are in the Subtaxa section that had been created previously. The Description section you added is good, as is the Distribution and habitat section. Missing is Conservation. I'm guessing you looked in IUCN and didn't find the species but didn't check NatureServe. There are other databases, too. NatureServe covers North America, but it does give a global status for taxa. This species is in NatureServe because part of its range is in North America. I will make some modifications and then explain them here. I hope you have a great day, and I'll get back to you soon. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 06:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Eewilson: you're right about the conservation info, which I didn't find in IUCN. I'm also struggling a bit to find a way to cite the source for the synonyms (I tried using the POWO ref, but kept getting an error message, so I took it out until I could work out what I was doing wrong). ArthurTheGardener (talk) 12:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @ArthurTheGardener: when you added the synonyms to the Species box in this article, they did not include the full author citations. It was as though some of the abbreviations had been cut off or deleted. I noticed in particular that some of the necessary periods were missing, and some species had only the author or authors in parentheses but not the author or authors that come after the parentheses. Each part of an author citation has a specific meaning. I recommend that you study the article Author citation (botany). It is important to not modify these from when you copy them from POWO, with one exception. Here is an example.
- The synonym list from the species page on POWO for Carex rupestris looks like this. I have highlighted the author citations in green and bold print.
- Caricinella rupestris (All.) St.-Lag. in A.Cariot, Étude Fl., éd. 8, 2: 882 (1889)
- Edritria rupestris (All.) Raf. in Good Book: 26 (1840)
- Every part after the taxon name until the word "in" is the author citation. So you must leave the "(All.) St.-Lag." and "(All.) Raf." in tact, and do not use the text including and after the word "in". The periods, hyphens, and parentheses all have important meaning. The article Author citation (botany) should explain this, including other items you may see in an author citation and what they mean. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 01:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Eewilson: once again, that's very helpful. I was working on a faulty assumption, so this makes it all a lot clearer. ArthurTheGardener (talk) 14:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Every part after the taxon name until the word "in" is the author citation. So you must leave the "(All.) St.-Lag." and "(All.) Raf." in tact, and do not use the text including and after the word "in". The periods, hyphens, and parentheses all have important meaning. The article Author citation (botany) should explain this, including other items you may see in an author citation and what they mean. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 01:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC)