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Battle of Hastings and all that

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Maybe some more current sources could be used for the early history of the family. See this talkpage: Talk:Robert de Brus, 1st Lord of Annandale#Disputed.--Celtus (talk) 08:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce is not a "Clan"

The Bruces have never been a "Clan." Rather, the Bruces are a Name; the Chief's proper title is "Chief of the Name of Bruce." Also, The Bruce Chief retired as Convenor of the Standing Council of Chiefs several years ago. MacGregor of MacGregor is the current Convenor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.18.27.210 (talk) 18:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce town of origin?

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Could the Bruce have come from Bruz (pronounced "Bruce") in Brittany? Henry I brought many Bretons over with him. It's known that many Bretons settled in Ayrshire in the early 1100s during the time of King David of Scotland, Henry I of England, and Count Stephen the Breton Lord of Richmond. Among these were the family of the hereditary Dapifer of the Archbishop of Dol in Brittany; they became the Royal Stewarts/Stuarts. The Bruce and the Stewarts were for centuries closely associated with prominent families of either Breton or Cumbrian origin (both being ethnically Old British) such as the Tweedie clan and the Earls of Dunbar. Zoetropo (talk) 13:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In 1124 he followed David north to reclaim his kingdom.

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"In 1124 he followed David north to reclaim his kingdom."

This sentence needs recasting.

Prince David couldn't 'reclaim' something he didn't previously have.

The circumstance of the Norman conquest of Scotland, headed by David but sponsored by Henry I, are a bit strange. 'followed' may be somewhat misleading.

On a more pedantic point, its not entirely clear whether there was a kingdom or just a crown, for David to claim in 1124. By the end of his reign there was a Kingdom, but in 1124 he became 'King of the Scots', but not perhaps quite King of Scotland.

Maybe the sentence would better read: 'In 1124 he accompanied David north to claim the Scottish crown'.

Cassandra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.250.233 (talk) 08:52, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]