Talk:Double-decker bus

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Re: First North American transit use of double deckers[edit]

The article remarks that Victoria BC was the first North American city to employ double decker buses. This is incorrect. New York City used American built models early in the 20th century. Later, in the 1980s, British Leyland built buses were used on Fifth Avenue routes for several years. -{Ursosarctos) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ursosarctos (talkcontribs) 03:55, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Is there a reason why Washington, DC is included here when the article mentions that cities with only tourist double deckers are excluded? A clever PR person for the tour company, perhaps? --92.236.48.97 (talk) 09:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brampton Transit in Ontario put a 1985 British Leyland bus into service in '89. The bus was purchased from Gray Line Tours in Victoria, BC. See this article. And here's a pic. Unless a bus build in '85 isn't considered "modern." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.102.167 (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move to save the Routemaster bus[edit]

I know awhile back there was a move to save the Routemaster bus from being phased out by many UK citizens. I think it would be worth a mention in this article. Does anyone have any information on it and think it would be a good addition to the article? Manufracture 02:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Phasing out of London buses: mistake?[edit]

Double-decker buses most certainly are not being phased out in London. They are still by far the most common type of bus in north London (where this author lives). I believe this article is mistakenly referring to the phasing out of the traditional "Routemaster" bus.

From MSNBC article http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4316040/ :

The snub-nosed vehicle, with its characteristic curved lines and hop-on, hop-off rear platform, is being replaced by bigger, boxier double deckers and articulated single-decker "bendy buses."

Creation[edit]

Currently the article says "They were created as a means of carrying large numbers of passengers without exceeding legal limits on vehicle length."

Is this true? The first double deckers were horse drawn [1][2][3] and like stage coaches had passangers on top. But was it to keep withing legal lenght limits, or the best way to keep the weight of the carrage down to maximise the number of passengers the horses could pull?

The average number in an omnibus at any one time is given as fourteen, and averaging these passengers at ten stone apiece, and throwing in the driver and conductor, we get a ton of live weight, to which we can add the ton and a half which the omnibus weighs, making up two-and-a-half tons for the pair to draw, and thus we arrive at the easily-remembered formula that the London omnibus horse draws a ton and a quarter twelve miles a day. He draws this at the rate of five miles an hour; he is bought when he is five years old; he works five years; he costs 35l. to buy and half-a-sovereign a week to feed; he is sold for a 5l. note; and lastly, and by no means less importantly, 'he is not a horse, but a mare.'[4] --PBS 20:38, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Matterobus?[edit]

What part of the world names a double-decker bus as a "matterobus"? Frankly this looks like a "joke" or "spoof" term. --TGC55 22:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google returns with 3 hits. Insignificant I know, but at least the name exists. *shurg* deadkid_dk 02:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All of those hits are related to "Wiki" sites. I did a Yahoo search and came up with something like 5 hits. All of these are sourced from "Wiki" sites. I think that the word "matterobus" is just a spoof word.--TGC55 14:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I've repeated the Google search. The only hits for this word are from Wikipedia or sites that are clearly WP derived. We have been had. Removing reference. -- Chris j wood 09:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just found out that my son is responsibl for "matterobus". He tried to use the word in a Scrabble game with his grandpa and was challenged. To "prove" it was a word, he ran to his room, printed out the edited page, and showed it to his grandpa, who didn't know that the articles could be edited. At any rate, I apologize for the whole matterobus. ((Mozartgirl))

Misrepresentative, to say the least[edit]

Why is only London mentioned has having double deckers in common use? Most large cities in the UK also have large numbers of double deckers in their fleets.

Similarly, the list of operators would have to be greatly expanded to include First etc. who run bus services in Edinburgh etc.

Any particular reason for these omissions? Juux 00:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, most towns in the UK that have regular bus services will see double deckers in regular use. Many services between towns are operated by double deckers. Single deckers are used on routes where there are height restrictions, due to low bridges, for example, but, at least in England, double deckers are the norm not the exception. Rayhol (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are Double-Deckers in Buenos Aires[edit]

I was recently in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and there are a lot of double-decker buses in use in the national transportation. I can't find any good info in english about it though.

user:Weirdo55 forgot to sign the above. Peter Horn User talk 17:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Try looking at all the entries in Argentina Happy translating. Peter Horn User talk 17:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How do you control gravitational effects?[edit]

This sentence does not make sense. How does one control gravitational effects? Maybe forces due to changes in direction of the bus, but not due to gravitational effects. It must be a misprint or something. Am i missing something?

From the first paragraph: "The first one is for primary operation and the second one is for controlling the vibrational and gravitational effects which may abrupt due the course of design of such buses."

Thanks, Sirtrebuchet (talk) 04:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That sentence is rubbish. I would like to remove it. Does anyone object? Rayhol (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's nonsense. Please do. 132.244.246.25 (talk) 09:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have done, but I forgot to sign the changes! Rayhol (talk) 23:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The high center of gravity of the double-decker bus is the think which helps them to roll-over. Does the ESC help to control it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.154.253 (talk) 10:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict[edit]

The Ireland article claims over 1125 double deckers in use in Dublin "second only to London" but the following Hong Kong section claims 5000 in service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.138.141 (talk) 04:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are double-decker buses in dubai[edit]

There are so many buses in Dubai. I hope someone takes that into account as i don't have much info about it.--Varunn 14:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Varunn pandya (talkcontribs)


Iraq[edit]

When I was in Baghdad in the late 1970's early 1980's Baghdad had a fleet of Leyland Atlanteans. They seemed ill suited to the heat and were normally seen stopped with the rear engine cover open. I imagine they are all long gone now.

Sri Lanka[edit]

I was in Colombo when the fleet of ex London Transport RMs were delivered as part of an aid package. The British Ambassador was amusing himself driving one around where they were all parked up opposite the Galle Face Hotel awaiting the official handover. It struck me at the time as a curious application of aid and a disaster waiting to happen, given the state of Columbo's roads, with many deep potholes and the propensity for Sri Lankans to hang off the outside of the buses. 'No standing upstairs', the traditional requirement to keep the centre of gravity down, was irrelevant to Sri Lankans, who stand anywhere they can find a space, as well as using the roof and hanging off the sides. Cheers Istracpsboss

Greece[edit]

There are double deckers as Athens City Tour buses and also on the E22 route to Saronida. --62.103.215.152 (talk) 14:05, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mexico[edit]

Re Double-decker bus#Mexico. I have found in Dos pisos, Viajes. There is more, but I don't have time to translate from Spanish. Peter Horn User talk 15:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If one can't find anything in English try another language,inthis case it was Spanish. Peter Horn User talk 17:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Red?[edit]

"Double-decker buses are used for mass transit in the United Kingdom, especially the iconic red double-decker." - this reads that the iconic red bus is especially used for mass transit across the UK. It's used only within London, naturally. Double-decker buses elsewhere in the UK are all kinds of colours depending on the operator, the largest being First Bus, Stagecoach, and Arriva - none of whom use red livery. Thedaveformula (talk) 14:23, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The current wording of the article refers to certain post-WW2 models, somewhat ambiguously, as "the first." Double-decker buses go quite a bit farther back than that. The 1927 Claude Friese-Greene film shows contemporary motor buses (which are red) and the Mitchell/Kenyon footage from the very early 20th century shows horse-drawn double-deckers in various cities. 2001:558:6045:D8:61BE:60A0:94BA:A195 (talk) 07:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Triple Deckers[edit]

I remember seeing one – an RT/RM-stylee bus – converted into a bar/restaurant in the infield at Silverstone during an early-1990s British Grand Prix weekend. Mr Larrington (talk) 01:23, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

jumping bus[edit]

At Dick_Smith_(entrepreneur)#Stunts it says he organised a double decker bus to jump over 16 (13?) motorcycles and has a link to AEC Routemaster. I know that the bus wasn't a Routemaster but I'm not sure what it really was. Here's a pic: https://web.archive.org/web/20000116024016/http://dropbears.com/m/models/specials/busjump.htm and a video https://dicksmithadventure.com.au/dick-smiths-flying-bus/ (note: Smith is the clippie on the platform - watch him bounce for the landing). I remember watching this on tellie as a kid but I need help identifying the bus.  Stepho  talk  11:27, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]