Talk:Dr. Rick
A fact from Dr. Rick appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 February 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 11:41, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- ... that Progressive Corporation published five thousand copies of Dr. Rick's book, Dr. Rick Will See You Now? Source: "Progressive's in-house publishing division Eleven Letter Press recently published 5,000 copies of Dr. Rick's new book"
- ALT1: ... that the Dr. Rick advertisements are based on the idea that people first experience parental introjection when buying their first home? Source: Talking to behavioral scientists and psychology researchers, “We found that there was a ‘grown-up switch’ that everybody has, and nobody had really mined when that switch turned on,” Charney said. The lurch into self-identified adulthood seemed to be precisely when people started becoming their parents.“We initially thought it was when people had kids,” he said. “But we found out it was when they buy homes.” Soon, homeownership-induced parental introjection was recast by Progressive as “parentamorphosis”; that campaign’s first ads debuted in 2016. Eventually, the ad series would evolve to focus on the don’t-become-your-parents evangelism of Glass’s Dr. Rick.
- Reviewed: 1990 ARCO explosion
Moved to mainspace by Bait30 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - see below
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: @Bait30: Shorter than usual for a DYK, but on my calculations long enough to qualify. Also an interesting presentation of a quirky subject, with (just) enough separate reliable sources to confirm notability. My only issue is with the hooks. Maybe if I'd been a resident of the USA, I would already have heard of Dr. Rick and known that he's fictional. But I'm not a resident of the USA, have never heard of Dr. Rick, and therefore both of the hooks were confusing to me before I read the article. As to the first hook, how is it interesting that some corporation of which I have never heard has published 5,000 copies of a book by an author of whom I have never heard? In this case, the answer is that the putative author is a fictional character from a series of advertisements for the corporation, but the hook gives no indication, to someone not already familiar with the putative author and/or advertisements and/or corporation, that he is fictional. Perhaps the first hook should be amended by inserting "fictional" before "Dr. Rick", but even if it were amended in that way, I wouldn't be sure whether it's really interesting enough. As to the ALT1 hook, it refers to a potentially interesting concept of introjection (of which I had similarly not previously heard), but when you click through to the article about that concept, that article includes a Template:Confusing stating "This article may be confusing or unclear to readers." Were it not for that problem, I would be inclined to prefer the ALT1 hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that Progressive Corporation, an American insurance company, published five thousand copies of Dr. Rick's book, Dr. Rick Will See You Now?
- ALT0b: ... that the insurance company Progressive published five thousand copies of a book written by the fictional Dr. Rick?
- ALT0c: ... that Progressive Corporation, an American insurance company, published five thousand copies of Dr. Rick Will See You Now by their fictional television advertisement character, Dr. Rick?
- Bahnfrend, let me know what you think. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 03:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Bait30: How about this alternative ALT0d: ... that Progressive Corporation, an insurer, published 5,000 copies of a book 'written' by Dr. Rick, its fictional advertising campaign character?
- - Bahnfrend (talk) 04:02, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm fine with that. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 04:16, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Okay, ready for DYK with that hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 06:38, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
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