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Copyvio?[edit]

is that bio a copyvio? --Nateji77 (talk) 13:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Discography table[edit]

Someone might want to fix the albums discography table. The first number of each year overlaps the line meant to separate the cover and date columns. I'd do it, but I don't know how. --Tudwell (talk) 02:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I made it, and I copied it pretty much directly off of another table that didn't have this problem, but I don't know how to fix it either. --IllaZilla2 (talk) 05:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Bratton?[edit]

Trying to decide whether or not Chris Bratton "counts" or should be included as a member of the band. ALL of the band's releases list Trombino as drummer, none of them make mention of Bratton in any way. I can't find any reliable source to show that he was a member of the band. Here's the best explanation that anyone has provided so far:

Chris Bratton was previously (but incorrectly) credited on this page with being a former drummer of Drive Like Jehu. Bratton was linked to DLJ through the Pitchfork/Nemesis Records/hardcore connections they shared (Pitchfork played primarily through an era when no other band sounded remotely like them, so they ended up playing with many hardcore bands with similar aesthetics and ideas, and Bratton played in many of these bands), and played with John Reis' post-Pitchfork, but the the four members of Drive Like Jehu played for a long time without a name, with rumors abounding throughout the San Diego music scene about what it might be. (One name that was considered was "Velocity Girl" before the east coast band of that name had emerged.) Thus Bratton's name has been removed from the band members list.

That was added by Skatepunk dot net but I took it out because it doesn't really belong in the article. So my understanding is that Bratton played with Reis after Pitchfork's breakup, in the time leading up to DLJ, but that he had left the picture and Trombino was in place by the time the group decided to call themselves Drive Like Jehu. So, though he may have played with some of the members at the time the band was gelling, he doesn't count as a member of DLJ as he was gone before they decided to turn the project into an actual band with a name. IF this is true it would perhaps be appropriate to mention him in the "Formation" section of the band history. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Genres[edit]

There has been some disagreement over which genres of rock music the band belongs in, resulting in some minor edit conflicts in this article. I believe that the genre talk in general in Wikipedia music articles is very overly complex and often borders on elitism that is detrimental to getting information across to a reader. As far as Drive Like Jehu goes, there seems to be general agreement that they fit the characteristics of "post hardcore" and that their music has (to some degree) been described as or associated with the reemergence of "emo" in the early 90s. As for genres like "post punk," "math rock," and "sludge rock," though I am unfamiliar with them and frankly confused about their meaning, and would prefer to stick to more general genre descriptions, obviously there are people with knowledge of these genres who believe Drive Like Jehu fits these descriptions. I see no reason to change the inclusion of these genre relations in the article as they link to informative and descriptive articles which detail the development of each genre and could be helpful to a reader interested in them. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's been some challenges lately about whether DLJ actually fits into the "math rock" genre. Can whoever added this provide some source to it? I honestly don't know anything about math rock but it's being challenged. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Band photo[edit]

Apparently the photo of the band was deleted. If the original uploader could re-add it with a proper license tag and fair use rationale, that would probably allow it to be used. It was a good picture and definitely enhanced the article. A free image uploaded to Wikimedia Commons would be better, if anyone has one. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

that is a good idea actually - I thought I would inquire if images that have been deleted are cached in some cache or whatever, but stalking the original uploader where did he get the image sounds more realistic. Anyway wikipedia should make some RSS feed "cool images nominated for deletion per WP:BS" or whatever --354d (talk) 00:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eponymous[edit]

eponymous doesn't mean self-titled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.15.82.141 (talk) 03:21, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the correct grammar is "eponymously-titled". --IllaZilla (talk) 03:58, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]