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recovered the page[edit]

Somebody must have had an unfortunately editing job.. Because major sections of the article was labeled "DONT BUY" others were deleted.. I’ve restored the page using the history functionAza 09:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

This article needs a lot of expansion.[edit]

This article needs a lot of expansion. For example, look at the bittorent page - much more detailed.

Most of this article was cut/pasted by me from EDonkey2000 article in order to separate 2 different subjects - network eDonkey2000 and program eDonkey2000.eDonkey2000 - is now an article only about program/client. Vorash 10:46, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think this should stay at "EDonkey Network" (first two letters capped) and not "Edonkey Network", because most people would want to link to it using [[eDonkey]], which links to "EDonkey Network". See for example EBay, which uses the same convention. - furrykef (Talk at me) 09:22, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

In any case, "network" should be lowercase. -- Viajero | Talk 10:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

agreeVorash 11:26, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What is meant by "The guy was arrested."? Is this just a hanger-on sentence from a previous version of this article? 19:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

confusion about eDonkey client vs. network[edit]

Someone added some stuff about Metamachine getting a c&d letter, and about them throwing the towel in the ring. I removed those paraghraphs here, and pasted them in the article about the eDonkey client. EDonkey clients make up a majority of the total clients on the ed2k network (eMule being the least popular one), and if they get dropped, the network users would be in turmoil. This fact could be noted in this article too, but in a way that makes clear that this is the major client that would be getting stopped, maybe with the outcome of the whole network going down.

Maybe I should get an account, so I can immediately see if misguided people post stuff like that in a P2P related article... edit: got myself an account, so now I can do this: --Jonne 22:30, 29 September 2005 (UTC) :p

Is EDonkey "free"?[edit]

The comment about EDonkey not being "free software" is misleading to most readers, who could care less about the "free as in ...." doctrine.


Removed from Emule plus "client that has more features than the original eMule while remaining CPU-friendly." Emuleplus has a pretty interface but has fallen behind the main client:

1. No Kademlia support

2. No support for files larger than 4GB.

3. No unicode support

Note that emule plus is named a fork in this aricle, but form the emule perspective it is a mod. A lot of feature from emule are merged into emule plus. :Leuk he

No longer in service[edit]

As of today, September 12th, the eDonkey network has been shut down. A message on their website confirms this. The article needs to be changed for past-tense. Levid37 13:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if this information is correct. I also saw workarounds in forums and read that the server only got hacked. Somebody should correct this information or remove it! --Hannes Rannes 17:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The network quite definitely still works, whatever the message might be saying. Mihara
I also don't think, that the network could be shut down so simply - it is decentral. --Hannes Rannes 17:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The client Edonkey2000 is asking you to visit the website and then after clearing that dialog box an uninstall box comes up.
Yes - MetaMachine gave up the client now, but they can't shut down the network, because it's decentral. It still works with older versions of eDonkey and it works with eMule. --Hannes Rannes 22:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
It's also business as usual with alternative clients such as aMule. The settlement and shutdown pertains to the eDonkey2000 client only, not to any servers, and certainly not to the network as a whole. Matt Fitzpatrick 23:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Haha, it's like they turned off the lights and said "We have eliminated them!" but the guys in the dark are like, "Uh, we're still here..." Tzarius 02:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, somebody should clean up the RIAA agreement section a bit first. I would have done it myself, but unfortunately my vocabulary is limited and I don't know much about it. So I've added a template if you guys wouldn't mind. -- Face 20:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

eMugle advertisment[edit]

The article contained a blatant two sentence advertisement for I'm surprised no one has caught it before. I removed the advertisement, but left the link since the site is somewhat useful. I wonder if perhaps it should be removed completely? —Kn0wItAll 10:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

You removed the information and left a link. The fact that there are index sites out there is more important than then the actual link. That is exactly why i left it that way. maybe the old text you removed should be moved to the Ed2k:_URI_scheme article instead and linked form this article. :Leuk he 12:19, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
No, I did not remove the stuff about there being index sites, only the description of eMugle which was an ad. —Kn0wItAll 22:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

there's also advertisement on a specific ip filter. since i'm no ed2k user (i'd rather torrent), i don't know whether that is the best suited ip filter for ed2k-clients, or if it's there for advertisement purpose only. i'm editing the text to a more npov version, anyway.capi 13:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

fake servers[edit]

The behavior of fake servers can easily be verified by running an ed2k client and doing some searching on them. the emule forum has pleay of examples of this. However who owns them and the exact reasons could use some citations. :Leuk he 10:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

As Far as procecution goes i use one of many wirless networks in my area i dont know who they belong to i have a boosted range two way wireless antena so whos ip address do they have its not mine. so my question is if some one did the same to me where do i stand as far as procecution? i have a 1 km range it could be any one. people round here just dont know how to secure there wireless is it my problem, i cant help my self free internet. i share the load round the nehbourhood i check there modem setting findout there billing information based on there user names monitor there use and use the left over bit s. i got it down to fine art.

"edonkey2000" site warning?[edit]

Why is this warning here? Every site logs visiting IPs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

This is a good way to scare people and make them believe that they are being watched. Nearly all closed pirate sites tell visitors that they will be caught and punished, but this is only a bluff. (talk) 23:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Chunk hashes[edit]

How does the software know what value to check against for the chunk hash? The ed2k links don't appear to contain anything other than the master hash. Ham Pastrami (talk) 07:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Chunk hash information is shared between clients. The original link just identifies the file. Piagi9 (talk) 18:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

eD2k History[edit]

In History it states that "The original eDonkey network relied on central servers run by users willing to donate the necessary bandwidth and processing/disk usage overhead. Such servers could be subject to heavy traffic and, consequently, more vulnerable to attacks. To overcome this problem, MetaMachine, the developer of the original eDonkey client, developed Overnet as a successor to the eDonkey protocol..." That's not quite right. As I remember it, Jed McCaleb (Swamp) programmed Overnet purely to get around scalability problems. The original dserver eDonkey used had a hard limit of 50,000 users per server (a problem lugdunummaster later solved in eserver). The Kademlia protocol Overnet was based on allowed Jed to by-pass this problem, allowing for no limits on the amount of users, plus also for a true peer-to-peer network without any servers to act as middle men. Unfortunately I'm not sure how I could verify this for WikiPedia. I used to moderate the Help section of the eDonkey forum and this was discussed in the forum, but that's long gone and no forum back ups were ever made available. Piagi9 (talk) 17:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

The Cleanup Template[edit]

As it has been over 2 years since the Cleanup-article template was put up, and over a year since anything was discussed here on the talk page, maybe it's time to review the need for the template and if not needed remove it.
If there is some work to be done, maybe someone can give a more specific idea of what needs to be done. Tamir 09:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

The lead needs to be smaller, and in general comply with WP:LEAD.   M   18:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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