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De-industralisation

@Rjensen: Per WP:BRD, in 2017 you were asked to gain consensus for including "popular responses" to de-industralisation. User:Absolutelypuremilk and I are against including it in this article, and you are the only one trying to keep it. For a time, it was fashionable to blame Brexit on poverty, but this agenda-pushing knee-jerk reaction has not stood up to scrutiny. In any case, we should not be discussing cultural responses to de-industrialisation (real or imagined) in an article about the economy. Culture and economics are two different things. Firebrace (talk) 23:51, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

the problem is that you announce your own opinions in the edit summary and argue with the experts, so you erase sourced ideas you disagree with. That's a no-no. Rjensen (talk) 23:53, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
By that logic, you must have added those ideas in the first place because you agreed with it..? Firebrace (talk)
It is not a violation to add relevant fully sourced info from RS -that is the main job of editors. However editors violate the rules by erasing reliably sourced information primarily because they have different unsourced personal notions. Rjensen (talk) 00:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
It is not my opinion, there is no such rule, and you've been told by two users that we're not including cultural responses or mentioning Brexit in the context of the 1970s economy. The content was removed because it is inappropriate and irrelevant. Firebrace (talk) 00:14, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I think the added content is way WP:UNDUE in the context of this article. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 07:16, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Infobox error?

I noticed the page had an error message saying the ref name "govuk" was undefined. It is actually defined, but the infobox seems to not be registering the deficit" parameter. "Deficit" isn't displaying on the page, though there is content there, and the formatting looks ok to me. Any idea why? Thanks. Jessicapierce (talk) 22:53, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I updated a dead link [1]. As I said there I have concerns the URL I added may not be the exact same version since the date is different but I didn't bother to double check the cited claims since it looks complicated. For the same reason I haven't updated the access dates. I'm not sure what the norm is in cases like this where I accessed the document but didn't verify the details. Nil Einne (talk) 06:39, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Financial centre

According to the Global Financial Centers Index, London is the financial centre of the UK. Not the City of London or Canary Wharf; London. Unless anyone can present reliable sources to the contrary? Would also point out Economy of the United States, which has New York as the US financial centre, not Manhattan; and Economy of Japan has Tokyo, not Marunouchi... Firebrace (talk) 13:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

"Economy of the European Union" vs "Economy of the United Kingdom"

"Economy of the European Union" states "The European Union economy consists of an internal market of mixed economies based on free market and advanced social models." "Economy of the United Kingdom" states "The economy of the United Kingdom is highly developed and market-orientated."

I was just wondering how far is the UK from the EU or the EU of the UK, in terms of mixed economies, free market, and market-orientated. That is what kind of things makes such economy like this and such other economy like that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.215.218 (talk) 13:11, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Needs non-British sources

"The economy of the United Kingdom is highly developed and market-oriented." Both of the terms "highly-developed" and "market-oriented" are weasel terms. For one Britian is a monarchy, and therefore its economy is far from "highly-developed"—its wealth comes from other nations, not from its own market power. And naturally as a monarchy it doesn't really have a "market economy" it has a "sovereign" economy. And though British sources might tout Britain being a "highly-developed" "market economy," reliable sources would have to come from somewhere else. -Inowen (nlfte) 20:55, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, here is another source: https://www.tresor.economie.gouv.fr/Pays/GB/presentation-de-l-economie-britannique
  • British economy is the 5th world GDP, and GDP per inhabitant is close to the French one;
  • It is also the second GDP from the EU, till now;
  • British economy is focused on service (79% in 2017);
  • British economy has a relative limited involvement of the state (44% GDB, between USA 38 and France 57), with involvement of the state to support the NHS and the banks;
  • British economy is dependent on London economy (24%);
  • The value of the Britsih pound only decrease by 19% with during the Brexit negotiations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.215.218 (talk) 13:31, 11 January 2020 (UTC)