Talk:Effects of Hurricane Irma in Florida

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Did you know... that the effects of Hurricane Irma in Florida resulted in at least $50 billion in damage, far surpassing Hurricane Andrew as the state's costliest tropical cyclone?

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+419 deaths?[edit]

[1] - I saw this on current events, which said that there were 433 nursing home deaths related to Irma. The article mentioned the 12 in Brevard County, which sparked the study, but I think that should be 14, per the TCR. The TCR said there were 80 indirect deaths in Florida, but it isn't clear if that includes any other nursing home deaths. I emailed the NHC, so hopefully they're clear up matters in issue an update to Irma's TCR. In the meantime, I wondered how we should handle the additional deaths. 12george1 (talk · contribs)? Cyclonebiskit (talk · contribs)? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:41, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I got a reply from the NHC, they said they're discussing it to figure out what to do. I imagine there might be a TCR update over the winter (or spring, once all of the 2020 TCRs are done). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Damage-$50 billion[edit]

Ok. so it did $50 billion in Florida and the USA? What about damage in other states?

So here is the Google search for Florida and here is the damage for the USA. Either the USA, or Florida, toll needs to be updated. . --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 15:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't often get a state breakdown for really damaging storms, usually just a national one. Unfortunately, we can't assume that all of the damage is in one particular state. We have to report the total that's listed in reliable sources. The highest total I could find for Florida alone is $19.4 billion. To assume all $50B happened in Florida is original research, unless you find a source backing that up. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but saying $19.4 billion is an underestimate. I'll put in a range. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 18:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But no source says $50 billion was for Florida alone, so the range isn't accurate. I'd put >$19.4, to show it's at least that amount. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

that is a problem though. Now, we are saying it did up to $30.6 billion in the rest of the country which is wholly inaccurate. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 21:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink: I found a source that puts the damage at $50 billion in Florida. However, the website is on the spam blacklist. HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 21:05, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Saying >$19.4B only means it caused at least that amount in Florida. It doesn't imply anything about the rest of the country. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:02, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink: it does. Because it implies that since 50 billion was caused, South Carolina and Georgia saw heavier damage. This says $50 billion. --HurricaneTracker495 (talk) 22:08, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I'm dumb, the ref that backs up $50 billion specifically says IRMA (FL). It's not like they went vague and said "SE US", so the source does back up Irma's damage total in the state being $50B, sorry about that confusion. As for other states, it must be pretty insignificant (in terms of mathematically significant figures), less than $100 million, since the NHC rounded to that digit. NCDC has $54 million in Georgia, Alabama $600,000, and $500,000 in South Carolina. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:37, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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