Talk:Ethnopoetics

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Wasn't the term "etnopoetics" coined by Jerome Rothenberg in 1968(publication date of Technitians of the Sacred)? This is stated in The Facts On File Companion To 20th-century American Poetry by Kenneth Sherwood. Has any of antropologists mentioned here used the term before that? If not, wouldn't the term be primarily related to poetry rather than antropology or linguistics?

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This entry places significant emphasis on the Linguistic usage of the term. It emerges in the 1970s in association with interdiscplinary journals drawing from literature and anthropology. This should be reflected.

--- The topic sentence limits the scope of ethnopoetics to a method of transcription. This is a conflation with what Rothenberg and others have more helpfully terms "total transation" (https://www.ubu.com/ethno/discourses/rothenberg_total.html). The restriction of scope is inaccurate, although textual representation (transcription) of oral materials is an important element of ethnopoetic work, esp. for Tedlock; strictly speaking, even when Hymes attends to textual representation its not transcription he's involved in since usually working from mediating print (not oral) sources.

I'd like to see a broader definition of "ethnopoetics" which includes transcription, translation, analysis/interpretation at least. Transmission seems to be central too, as in the reproduction or collection and circulation of stories, poems, songs, etc.

See Alcheringa issue 1 statement of purpose: "- to provide a ground for experiments in the translation of tribal/oral; poetry & a forum to discuss the possibilities & problems of translation from widely divergent cultures; - to encourage poets to participate actively in the translation of tribal/oral poetry; - to encourage ethnologists & linguists to do work increasingly ignored by academic publications in their fields, namely to present the tribal poetries as values in themselves rather than as ethnographic data" ^[1] Kwsherwood (talk) 03:03, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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References

^ https://media.sas.upenn.edu/jacket2/pdf/reissues/alcheringa/Alcheringa_1-1_Fall-1970.pdf

Carlos Castaneda

My understanding is that Castaneda is a very controversial figure, and many people out there consider his career to be largely fraudulent, told in semi-fictional popular narratives to appeal to 1970s stoners. Are there some scholars who take his claims seriously? - Smerdis of Tlön 19:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. He is not notable for his contributions to scholarship. However I think his contribution to literatures about native americans have been influential enough to warrant a mention here even if they aren't uncontroversial. This article needs a very good work over - I will try to do it this coming week and I doubt anyhting of what's in it now will remain. Maunus 21:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The text has been massacred recently...I wonder why.

Coherence

By the recent changes, the article has now become totally incoherent. Perhaps there should be some general section on ethnopoetic etymology, then one on general principles, and finally separate sections on Rothenberg, Tedlock and Hymes as they differ a bit on analytic detail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.192.230.148 (talk) 08:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://media.sas.upenn.edu/jacket2/pdf/reissues/alcheringa/Alcheringa_1-1_Fall-1970.pdf

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