Talk:European Credit Transfer and Accumulation System
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Grades
[edit]Are there conversion tables for the grades from the ECTS system (A to E and F,FX = fail) to the American system (A to C and F = fail) ?
I have a similar question only relating to conversion with regards to the credit system. Are there any such conversion tables or formulas with regards to the credit points given in the ECTS system and various North American univesities ? Kristian Joensen 20:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- The ECTS Grades are really Ranking points not Grades, and it seems to be implied that whatever the actual level of achievement of the cohort, the top 10 will be ECTS-graded A, and so on in accordance with the table shown. This may or may not translate to an Institution's grading system, which might be based on qualitative features of the student or their work performance. Matt Whyndham 15:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the information. But what about credit system ? I see alot of American Universities use notations like "Credit Hours", "Credit Units" or just "Credits". Is there any way to convert between that and the ECTS system ? Kristian Joensen 20:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- At least in Sweden, the official interpretation seems to be that one year of full time studies in one country is equivalent to 60 ECTS credits. When converting between the ECTS system and the American system using that definition, find out how many American credits a student is expected to take in one year (if studying full time). That amount of credits is then equivalent to 60 ECTS credits. However, other countries may use other conversion systems. (212.247.11.156 (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC))
List of ECTS-label institutions
[edit]Can anyone maybe make or find a list of universities with the ECTS label ?Knorrepoes 12:15, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- For UK institutions, try http://www.erasmus.ac.uk/index.html
Where is Spain???
[edit]Anyone can say me where is spain in the article? Because spain is also in the Bolonia process and, of course, we have also universities
Please add all countries.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.89.75.56 (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- There're still Germany, Switzerland and Lithuania and maybe more missing.--Edroeh (talk) 20:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Turkey is missing too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.65.217.90 (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Turkey is not part of the EU. If at best it should be listed as external countries. 2A02:8388:1600:C80:C2CB:EF37:AE16:EB13 (talk) 08:43, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Possible merge from ECTS grading scale
[edit]I had proposed merging ECTS grading scale into European Credit Transfer and Accumulation System and flagged both articles accordingly, partly because ECTS grading scale had been flagged for notability. That article has now been expanded considerably. I think it now contains enough information not only to establish notability but also to stand alone, so the Merge flags could be removed. I think merging is still an option, so I'll leave the flags for a while to see what other people think, but please feel free to remove the flags if there's no further comment. -Boson 14:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- After a while with no opposition, I removed the {{merge}} tags in both articles. Waldir 11:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
1500-1800 hours of study?
[edit]This is impossible. In order for this to work, a student would have to go to class every day (Sunday-Saturday) of every month of the year for 5 hours. Or they would have to go to class nine hours a day Monday through Friday for eight months. If this is true, then a European degree has more than double the value of a U.S. degree in number of hours, although they are usually considered equivalant internationally. Could someone please explain this to me or rephrase it if neccessary. Thanks Paxuniv (talk) 04:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
- In Sweden one academic year (60 credits) consists of 40 weeks of study. If you've got a work, you work for 40 hours a week (9-17), and if you're a student, the idea is that you should be studying for the same amount of time (that is, 40 hours a week). . Note that this time does not only include the time you spend at uni attending classes, but also the time you spend at home reading your books. Also note that although it should officially take 40 hours to obtain 1.5 ECTS credits, it will typically take less time for most students. Other countries may have other rules for the amount of study needed to obtain one credit. (212.247.11.156 (talk) 20:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC))
- In the Netherlands, a 40 week year with 40 hour days is assumed, note that those 40 hours include homework-like things, colloboration with fellow students, and the like. InaVegt (talk) 12:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Source of Table?
[edit]Is there a source for the large table which shows workload per credit point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.66.226 (talk) 02:04, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Scotland in table
[edit]How can 2 SCQF points equal 1 ECTS point, as stated, if they stand for 10 hours of workload each, i.e. 20 h for 2 SCQF or 1 ECTS, when the ECTS strictly requires 25–30 hours per credit point? — Christoph Päper 13:04, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Germany 25–30 hours/CP
[edit]If I remember correctly, the German _Kultusministerkonferenz_ a few years ago started to require all universities and colleges to use a fixed 30 h/CP definition, but I don’˝ have an actual source at hand. Even before that, 25 h/CP was rarely used and nothing in between. — Christoph Päper 13:06, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Here in Austria, 25 hours per ECTS is common. Here is one link to verify this:
https://tiss.tuwien.ac.at/course/courseDetails.xhtml?windowId=2f4&courseNr=183579&semester=2016W
"Technische Grundlagen der Informatik" "Aufwandsabschätzung (ECTS Breakdown): 150 Stunden = 6 ECTS"
So, 150 / 6 is 25.0.
I would assume that it is the same in Germany, so 25. If you can find a link for 30 though, add it here perhaps so that others can verify? 25 really appears to be much more common IMO. 2A02:8388:1600:C80:C2CB:EF37:AE16:EB13 (talk) 08:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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Current Table structure
[edit]The overview is fine but what I am missing in the table is the year as to when the ECTS system was established in that particular country. 2A02:8388:1603:CB00:D127:6107:A96E:296A (talk) 21:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
UK status
[edit]Can anyone explain what the UK status has been in regards to the ECTS system? 2A02:8388:1603:CB00:D127:6107:A96E:296A (talk) 21:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Merge proposal
[edit]There's a dedicated page for the Italian system, but much of it overlaps with the scope here, as it relates to others in Europe too. Hence, I think that it's best to consolidate the information here. Klbrain (talk) 16:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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