Talk:Friendship Heights

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I've always wondered the derivation of the neighborhood's name. Anyone know? Quacks Like a Duck 06:23, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Johnson's

In years gone by a major landmark of Friendship Heights was the Howard Johnson's restaurant: from my recollection, it was razed in the late 1970's. I think that would be a good (albeit bygone) landmark to mention (and provide a picture of) in the Friendship Heights article.

Rebalancing the page from a local resident's perspective

Have edited this page to reflect a local resident's perspective rather than the one that seems to have been generated by a marketing promoter of new business investment who does not live in the area. Eliminated some of the "exclusive", "affluent" adjectives which must have been directed at investors and provided some balance about the range of businesses in the area. Some seem to want to make FH a "Rodeo Drive wannabe" but in reality, we really don't have a Beverley Hills surrounding the area!

A similarly unbalanced and incorrect section about Friendship Heights was tacked onto the Chevy Chase DC page. Have eliminated that and instead redirected to this page.

Business Promotion?

The last paragraph mentions a development with a Bloomingdales, condo, etc. There's a link in the article for the development company's website. I'm kinda new to editing, but isn't self-promotion not allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgnosticPreachersKid (talk • contribs) 07:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was the one who added the link to the development company's website. I have no affiliation with the company. I live about a mile from this construction site and, frankly, I added the link so that I could periodically check to see if there were updates on their site. Put it back or leave it off -- no big deal to me either way. Dharris (talk) 04:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is I suppose a lesson about jumping to conclusions. Like APK above, I pretty much figured that the linker had to be someone with an interest in the thing - little did I suspect that the interest would be personal curiosity! I think the article's better without the link; but thanks for the explanation! JohnInDC (talk) 11:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Examples of upscale retailers

Why was it deleted? There are mentions of other retailers and businesses in the area in the article. Also, I think it's noteworthy because Friendship Heights is mentioned in an article about high-end shopping areas.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 10:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC) Also, you changed the word "area" to "district." This article is referring to a particular neighborhood in the district, not the entire district itself. I changed it back.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 11:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I take out these lists when I see them because they invariably read like Chamber of Commerce promotional pieces. If it's well-known as a high-end shopping area / district, then saying that is enough. It doesn't matter and it doesn't seem really encyclopedic to add that there's a Jimmy Choo there. (Which you left out by the way - whom to include, and whom to exclude being another source of unencyclopedic tension.) Wikipedia isn't the Yellow Pages. JohnInDC (talk) 18:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you're going to remove the stores I mentioned, then take out the Bloomingdale's and Whole Foods references. Double standards are fun, aren't they? Plus, I'm well aware I didn't mention there is a Jimmy Choo located in F.H. If you would have paid attention to what I wrote, ("A few of the upscale retailers located in Friendship Heights are..."), it's obvious I gave a very short list of stores. If I were to mention every single store in the area, then it really would be alot of unnecessary info. I'm sorry if you're offended that I left out Jimmy Choo. I guess you're a fan? Anyway, if you were to read articles about places like the Magnificent Mile, Fifth Avenue (Manhattan), and Newbury Street (Boston), you will see that examples of stores are mentioned. If you want to delete my examples, then you need to delete examples in all of the other articles I mentioned. I'm pretty sure that others would disagree with your opinion.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 19:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the page to its approximate state before your edits and have added comments to your personal talk page so that we can sort this out civilly. JohnInDC (talk) 11:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since you appear to have deleted the material I added to your talk page, I will include it here instead. This is not, by the way, disputes are supposed to be resolved in Wikipedia; we may need some outside help:

A couple of thoughts. First, I see that you are new to Wikipedia. Judging by the tone of your comments to me on Talk:Friendship Heights, you should review Help:Contents, particularly "Working with Others". Wikipedia:Assume Good Faith, for example, counsels that you should assume that other editors are proceeding in good faith and not applying personal or artibtrary rules. Wikipedia:Civility is another pertinent admonition. Accusing other editors of "double standards" and sarcastically questioning whether they'd "read what you wrote" are really not consistent with the spirit and purpose of Wikipedia.

Second, I have reverted the page back to the point at which it existed before you started making the edits about which you and I disagree, pending comments from others on the Talk page, as well as the results of our mutual efforts to ascertain what Wikipedia says about such lists. In response to my comments you noted a couple of other "upscale retail areas" that list their retailers - setting aside whether Friendship Heights can really be compared to Chicago's Magnificent Mile or Fifth Avenue in New York City, that sidesteps the points I made, which are that Directories of retailers are unencyclopedic and subject to a variety of collateral, unencyclopedic considerations. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. But the way to convince me, and the way to do it in proper Wikipedia fashion, is not with snarky comments and reverts. Let's both do some research, all right? JohnInDC (talk) 11:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

JohnInDC (talk) 12:30, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've submitted a request for comment to WP:EAR concerning our apparent inability to reach consensus (see WP:Consensus) on this issue. JohnInDC (talk) 13:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to change the article to how you (and only you) see fit, then go ahead. I'm not going to waste anymore of time arguing about minute details of this article. If you want to change it back, go ahead if it makes you happy. Arguing online is like running in a Special Olympics race. One person may win, but they're both still retarded. I don't want to be one of those people, so revert to your little heart's desires.--AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 13:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]