Talk:Fury and Hecla Strait

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Width?

The text says 2-20km. It’s not too hard to see by dead reckoning in google maps, that just to the west of Liddon Island in the southeast of the strait, the strait is a bit over 22mi.. (35km) wide. If we ignore Lidden Island, the strait across the middle of the island is about 40km. The Canadian Encyclopedia says it’s 50km wide. I can’t see anywhere putatively wider than 40km. Other sources say 16-24km. Maybe they’re ignoring the eastern ‘gap’ that sort of isn’t part of the strait proper. It’s not supposed to be original research, but the stated width is misleading at best, and uncited. Sbalfour (talk) 22:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

First transit

The article says "In 1948, USS Edisto and USCGC Eastwind icebreakers succeeded in crossing the strait from east to west ... ^[1] In August 2016, David Scott Cowper and son, Freddy Cowper, aboard M/V Polar Bound became the first vessel to transit Fury and Hecla Strait from east to west during their successful Route-7 West Northwest Passage.^[2]

References

^ (Ross 1960)
^ Pohl, Douglas (2016-12-18). "Northwest Passage Route-7 Transits as of the end of 2016". arcticnorthwestpassage.blogspot.com. Blogger (Google). Retrieved 2019-01-14. Who has completed a Route-7 Northwest Passage since Fury & Hecla Strait was discovered in 1822 by William Edward Parry? Chronological List: (Only five vessels) (Date, Vessel, Route & Direction of Transit) 1. 1970, R/V PANDORA II, Route-7 East; 2. 1970, R/V THETA, Route-7 East; 3. 2006, 24,200hp Icebreaker KAPITAN KHLEBNIKOV, Route-7 East; 4. 20160826, M/V POLAR BOUND, Route-7 West;^{[self-published source]}

Works cited

Ross, W. Gillies (1960-02-02), "Parry's Second Voyage", History Today, vol. 10, no. 2, retrieved 2019-01-13"

Both expeditions cannot have been the first. The History Today article is available online here. The Pohl article does not mention the Edisto and Eastwind. Should the article say that the Cowpers claimed to have been the first to make an east-west transit, or that they were the first to do so in open water/without the use of an icebreaker? Alekksandr (talk) 16:51, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Inland Seas by I.P. Martini, Elsevier, 22 Sept 2011, page 218 says "In 1947, the U.S.S. "Edisto" and U.S.C.G.C "Eastwind" became the first ships to transit an inland waterway from Lancaster Sound to Hudson Strait via Fury and Hecla Strait". Given the geography of the area, this indicates that they made a west-east transit, contrary to what is said in the 'History Today' article. The Department of State Bulletin, Volume 19, page 471, October 10, 1948 says that "The Edisto and the Eastwind returned to the Atlantic coast through Fury and Hecla Strait" which again indicates a west-east passage. I propose to amend the article to cite the various sources about Edisto and Eastwind and to note the conflict between them. Alekksandr (talk) 22:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] (Ross 1960)

[Pohl-2] Pohl, Douglas (2016-12-18). "Northwest Passage Route-7 Transits as of the end of 2016". arcticnorthwestpassage.blogspot.com. Blogger (Google). Retrieved 2019-01-14. Who has completed a Route-7 Northwest Passage since Fury & Hecla Strait was discovered in 1822 by William Edward Parry? Chronological List: (Only five vessels) (Date, Vessel, Route & Direction of Transit) 1. 1970, R/V PANDORA II, Route-7 East; 2. 1970, R/V THETA, Route-7 East; 3. 2006, 24,200hp Icebreaker KAPITAN KHLEBNIKOV, Route-7 East; 4. 20160826, M/V POLAR BOUND, Route-7 West;^{[self-published source]}

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