Talk:Gang patch

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WTF?

Ummm, there is nothing uniquely New Zealandish about gang Patches, Patched Members, ect ect. Street Gangs having been using patches since God knows when in America, even if the practice isn't as popular as it once was, and patches are one of the core defining aspects of Motorcycle Clubs (aka, Biker Gangs. Outlaw, Poser, or otherwise.).

At first I was of a mind to remove the reference to New Zealand but according to the talk page it's part of project New Zealand! I'm not sure what the process of removing a page from a project is, but Gang Patches are about as New Zealand as sheep. I'm sure you have a lot, but sheep are everywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.235.191.38 (talk) 02:30, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand is also known for sheep! Sheep might be everywhere, but in 2020 there were allegedly 7.7 sheep per head of human population,^{[Citation 1]} down from a peak of around 25 in the 1970's. That is more than any other independent country. Sheep might be everywhere and some countries might even have more sheep than New Zealand, but there are more sheep in New Zealand per person. So I am not sure if your analogy is a good one when you say "Gang Patches are about as New Zealand as sheep". Yes, they might have been imported from overseas, but we have made them our own ... they are now part of New Zealand culture. So why shouldn't a Wikipedia article be written about a gang patch from a New Zealand perspective if that is supported by the sources? If you think the term has a more global perspective then, please, write about it and cite your sources, too. There seems to be relatively few sources that talk about "gang patches" in other countries, in the same way as the term is used in New Zealand. Terms like "gang colors" or "insignia" seem to being preferred in other jurisdictions. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:49, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After some further research, sociologist Dr Jarrod Gilbert claims that street gangs wearing Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs style patches are unique to New Zealand.^{[Citation 2]} - Cameron Dewe (talk) 12:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

^ "List of countries with more sheep than people, numbers and ratios 2020 - GetRawMilk.com". Get Raw Milk. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
^ Deguara, Brittney (9 June 2021). "Understanding how New Zealand's gangs work". Stuff. Retrieved 6 June 2022.

In the US they are more often referred to as "colors" than patches. According to this this article the US Hells Angels started using patches in 1961 after a gang charter in New Zealand. I don't know if that means they got the idea from New Zealand or they both started using them at the same time. SouthernResidentOrca (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "List of countries with more sheep than people, numbers and ratios 2020 - GetRawMilk.com". Get Raw Milk. Retrieved 6 June 2022.

[2] Deguara, Brittney (9 June 2021). "Understanding how New Zealand's gangs work". Stuff. Retrieved 6 June 2022.

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