Talk:Gigantorhynchus
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Potential summary table
[edit]| Scientific name Author |
Distribution | Host(s) | Number of proboscis hooks | Female length (mm) Male length (mm) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| G. echinodiscus (Diesing, 1851) |
Venezuela, Panama, Trinidad Island | Giant anteater, southern tamandua, silky anteater | 18 | 53.41–103.5 15.25–45.94 |
| G. lopezneyrai Diaz-ungria, 1958 |
Venezuela | Southern tamandua | 12 | Unknown 17.131–59.5 |
| G. lutzi Machado, 1941 |
Peru | Bare-tailed woolly opossum, common opossum | 12 | 0–0 0–0 |
| G. ortizi Sarmiento, 1954 |
Panama, Peru, Colombia | Brown four-eyed opossum, White-bellied slender opossum | 12 | 0–0 0–0 |
| G. pasteri Tadros, 1966 |
Zimbabwe | Baboon | 4 | 0–0 0–0 |
| G. ungriai Antonio, 1958 |
Venezuela | Southern tamandua | 18 | 0–0 0–0 |
Translation of German source material
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Moved from [[:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany#Short translation requested Eric talk 19:50, 13 June 2020 (UTC)]]Hi! I'm working on the featured article Gigantorhynchus and the only record of the origins of this name is from a 150 year old German text that says: "Wie der Name besagt, sind es große Formen, die hierher gehören." I assumed the "giganto" refers to the large size, but I'm wondering if anyone could translate that for me so I can add the translated phrase to the article? Thank you! Danke! Mattximus (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi- I'll take a stab beginning with a mostly literal translation, with my presumptions of context in brackets: As the name indicates/implies, these are large forms [as in versions/varieties?] [of acanthocephalan] that belong here [i.e. to this classificiation/type]. Can you provide a bit more of the wording that precedes and follows this bit? Eric talk 17:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sure! The direct quote was found in the final paragraph here [1]. I believe I linked to the correct page. Thank you already! In the featured article review, they wanted the etymology of the name, this link I gave you was the original description so should contain the etymology. This quote was what I assumed was that.Mattximus (talk) 17:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, found it on the preceding page. It seems he's distinguishing his suggested family name Gigantorhynchidae from the Echinorhynchidae by their size, initially anyway. So a good approach might be to this family belong the large(er) forms/varieties/species/genera or the larger varieties belong to this group/classification. Note: I keep wanting to change große to größere (large to larger), if I dare edit a guy from a time when people could talk way gooder than us. Have you seen this article, by the way? I haven't read it yet, but thought it might be of use. And maybe this ITIS report. Do you want me to move this discussion over to the article's talkpage? Eric talk 18:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sure this would be great to move the the Gigantorhynchus. The article you linked is excellent, and I will use it on the Mediorhynchus since it contains 2 species not even on the ITIS site. Thank you! As for the translation, I'll incorporate your translation into the body of the text now. Thanks again! Mattximus (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Glad to help! Eric talk 19:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sure this would be great to move the the Gigantorhynchus. The article you linked is excellent, and I will use it on the Mediorhynchus since it contains 2 species not even on the ITIS site. Thank you! As for the translation, I'll incorporate your translation into the body of the text now. Thanks again! Mattximus (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, found it on the preceding page. It seems he's distinguishing his suggested family name Gigantorhynchidae from the Echinorhynchidae by their size, initially anyway. So a good approach might be to this family belong the large(er) forms/varieties/species/genera or the larger varieties belong to this group/classification. Note: I keep wanting to change große to größere (large to larger), if I dare edit a guy from a time when people could talk way gooder than us. Have you seen this article, by the way? I haven't read it yet, but thought it might be of use. And maybe this ITIS report. Do you want me to move this discussion over to the article's talkpage? Eric talk 18:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sure! The direct quote was found in the final paragraph here [1]. I believe I linked to the correct page. Thank you already! In the featured article review, they wanted the etymology of the name, this link I gave you was the original description so should contain the etymology. This quote was what I assumed was that.Mattximus (talk) 17:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok so I wrote this, does it match with your German translation? Danke!
The name Gigantorhynchus is derived from two Ancient Greek words: gígantas which Hamann used in 1892 as a descriptor when grouping the the larger varieties of these worms[a] and rhúnkhos, meaning snout, nose, or beak, which describes the characteristic proboscis in this genus of Acanthocephala.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattximus (talk • contribs) 19:43, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. I made a couple tweaks. Do you think it should go into its own etymology section, or is that typically included in the taxonomy section of such articles? Omnipaedista might be good to ping for guidance; see this: User_talk:Omnipaedista#Etymology_section_name. Eric talk 20:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- In this case I think it should be in the taxonomy section because so little is known about this genus that there is not enough information to warrant two separate sections. Normally though I agree with you. Thanks once again for your help, hopefully this will help it pass featured article nomination! Mattximus (talk) 14:12, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Eric talk 15:32, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- In this case I think it should be in the taxonomy section because so little is known about this genus that there is not enough information to warrant two separate sections. Normally though I agree with you. Thanks once again for your help, hopefully this will help it pass featured article nomination! Mattximus (talk) 14:12, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ "The larger varieties belong to this group/classification" (original German: "Wie der Name besagt, sind es große Formen, die hierher gehören.")