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Camel or throwing stick? The article seems to claim both in separate sections, without discussion, which seems like a problem to me. It can't be both. What does the research say? Is it an open question? It would be good to have more than a footnote by Bertrand Russell to go by. (talk) 01:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I believed that gimel came from a Phenician letter representing a camel (gamal in hebrew). And when you look at the Hebrew letter, it can look like a camel.

Julia (jvigne' @ '

Footnote 6 to chapter 1 of Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy makes the above assertion. Any evidence for this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Arabic letter forms inconsistency among articles[edit]

Is there a reason to show the Arabic letter in the table in Gimel (letter) in its middle form: ﺟ , whereas in Heth (letter) the letter is shown in the final form: ح ? (cross-posted: Talk:Heth (letter)#Arabic letter forms inconsistency among articles)--Imz 00:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'm solving this problem by adding 2 distinctive Arabic letter forms (initial and isolated, if they are present) to the tables: [1], [2].--Imz 02:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


It needs to be mentioned that Gimel is always the winnar. Buttboy666 21:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Arabic pronunciation question[edit]

I've heard that in Arabic it's pronounced "J" (as in "jump") but I've also heard that it's pronounced "J" as in "regime" or French "jour." I'm not speaking of the Egyptian pronunciation as "G" but the standard Arabic pronunciation. Thanks in advance for assistance on this. Badagnani 23:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

In al-Fuṣḥā (standard Arabic), it's pronounced as ZH (the g in regime), but in certain regional dialects it's pronounced as DJ or G. MURRAYtheB مروان (talk) 21:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Alternate name of letter in Arabic[edit]

Can't the letter's name also be romanized as "jim" (in addition to "ǧīm," which is used here)? Badagnani 23:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

hi iam sobhan — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2013 (UTC)