Talk:Giovanni Gabrieli

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Seeking info on the subject[edit]

hi, I am working on a project for my choir class, I was wondering if anyone could give me some information on Giovanni Gabrieli?? Thanks for your help!

Sincerly, Amy Sue

I presume you must have seen the article, which is short and unfinished, but it's a start. Basically, Giovanni was the most famous composer of the Venetian School right at the time of transition from Renaissance to Baroque style. He wrote a lot of polychoral music (choirs of singers and instruments split up into different groups in different spatial locations). Antandrus (talk) 20:19, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Current state of the article[edit]

I have made some alterations to the article, but I want to ask those in the know about two things. First, I understand that recent scholarship has determined that the instrumentalists & singers did not use the two choir galleries, but rather that they assembed in a couple of different places on the floor. Can someone please confirm? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wspencer11 on 27 June 2007

Annibale Caracci, Man with a Lute, c 1593-94 (Staatliche Kunstsammlungen, Gemäldegalerie, Dresden), no longer thought to be Giovanni Gabriele, actor

Annibale Caracci's Man with a Lute is not the composer Gabrieli[edit]

And second, the picture. I have never ever heard of GG being a lute player. Is this a verified representation of him? --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 13:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know who the picture is of. I've seen it other places, where it was just called "man with a lute" or something like that. I suspect there is someone out there who thinks it might be Gabrieli, but that's all. - Geoffg 03:50, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I also do not think this image is actually Gabrieli.
It's significant that neither the 1980 Grove nor the current online version have a picture of Gabrieli. They always include a picture of a famous composer if one exists, and the articles usually mention portraiture (there aren't all that many paintings of famous composers before 1600, and the ones that exist are always notable). Nice as the image is, I'm taking it out for now as unverified. Thanks for pointing this out! Until now I had been thinking -- wow, that's a nice picture of Gabrieli; I'm glad someone found one ... Antandrus (talk) 14:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Taken out again, on surer grounds this time. This Annibale Caracci painting was adduced as comparative material in Pamela Askew, "Fetti's 'Portrait of an Actor' Reconsidered" The Burlington Magazine 120 No. 899 (February 1978:59-65) illus. fig. 3, p, 61. The actor Giovanni Gabrieli has traditionally been identified as the sitter (a connection Pamela Askew disallows), but has never been identified as Gabrieli the composer except on the Internet. A persistent tradition (no longer upheld) identified the sitter as Sig. Mascheroni, a familiar friend of Annibale's. There is no connection with Gabrieli the Venetian composer. --Wetman (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

This portrait is not of the composer Giovanni Gabrieli, see the Preface of Richard Charteris, Giovanni Gabrieli (ca. 1555–1612): A Thematic Catalogue of his Music with a Guide to the Source Materials and Translations of his Vocal Texts (New York, Pendragon Press, 1996). — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:08, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Askew did suggest the sitter was not Giovanni Gabrielli (actor), but a member of the Mascheroni family of Bologna (based on Carlo Cesare Malvasia's Felsina Pittrice, vol 1, p. 359), and a recent exhibition at the Getty Center gives the painting the title Portrait of the Lute Player Giulio Mascheroni (see Getty Center Exhibition "Captured Emotions"). --Robert.Allen (talk) 08:15, 22 January 2015 (UTC)