Talk:Golden Needle Sewing School

Education

Hi AE, you made two changes to this: (1) that women were only limited in their education, so could you say how they were allowed to be educated i.e. what they were allowed to learn? and (2) that "The school would allow women writers to meet with eachother in a segragated place, away from the warfare between tribes." Are you saying with this that they went to this school only so that they could escape fighting? Also..., why would they have wanted to meet in a segregated place, had they not been forced to? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 00:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Wow talk page is already used? About my edits. (1) Women were educated only by small home-based schools and rural religious ones. [1], I made this clarification later. (2) Yes I messed up on that before, so I found that and fixed it while I was copyediting the article. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 00:58, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

But they weren't allowed to be educated. The teachers in the home-based and rural schools, and in schools like the Golden Needle Sewing School, were risking their lives in continuing to educate women. Girls were even't allowed to learn how to read. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:09, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I guess I've just heard different. I heard that some small home-based and rural schools were allowed to operated to educate them, but would be watched closely. A few schools like this one were secret. However, girls were allowed to learn how to read, not widely and not in public schools. Also women could work in limited positions in the medical field. For example. the Taliban would need women nurses and doctors to deal with women patients. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 01:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Do you have sources showing that women were allowed to be educated? All the sources I have say they weren't, and that women were left to become ill because women doctors weren't allowed to work and the Taliban wouldn't let them be treated by male doctors.

Also, I'm not sure what this means: "The school would allow women writers to meet with eachother in a segragated place, away from the religious police (mutaween) and tribal warfare." But they were forced to meet in segregated places. The way this is worded, it sounds as though they wanted to, and were doing it only to get away from tribal warfare.

They visited it because it was an underground school. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:17, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

There were definitely women doctors and nurses in select hospitals. Even this feminist site says that [2]. If you feel you need to reword the sentence because it sounds wrong, go ahead. I have reworded it slightly myself. :) --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 01:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Why delete the info on Shi'a areas? That is very true. The Shi'a were often at odds with the Taliban so stricter laws were imposed. Also the source you gave also says "Hundreds of girl's schools were established in private homes and thousands of women and girls", which is what I wrote before. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 01:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

The schools were illegal. "On June 16, 1998, the Taliban ordered the closing of more than 100 privately funded schools where thousands of young women and girls were receiving training in skills that would have helped them support their families. The Taliban issued new rules for nongovernmental organizations providing the schooling: education must be limited to girls up to the age of eight, and restricted to the Qur'an." [3]

There was one hospital where women were allowed to be treated. And can you supply a source showing it made a difference that this was a Shi'a area? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:53, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Here it is [4]. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 01:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)