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Texans or Texians?
[edit]Which is it? The article seems to use both interchangeably...
Dblecros 01:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- "Texians" was the original word for people from Texas, but other people found it hard to pronounce and they changed it to "Texans." I think the change happened when Texas joined the US, and other states could not pronounce the word, but I'm not sure. Cloudbreath9 (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Names of those massacred at Goliad
[edit]Is there a list of the men who were captured and killed? A link to it would be helpful even if for some reason the list could not be here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.16.29.209 (talk) 17:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Outline for revamp
[edit]My ideas of how to reorganize the article; other input welcome. Karanacs (talk) 21:47, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
- Background
- 1835 - Santa Anna turned Centralist, revoked the Const of 1824, revolts inside Mexico put down brutally, Texians kicked out the soldiers
- 1836 -
- Santa Anna begins gathering troops for his Army. Tornel Decree.
- Matamoros Expedition meant troops under Grant and Johnson. Fannin's role. Texas government functionally shut down. Rumors of Mexican troops on the way ignored.
- Tons of people from the US flocking to Texas to fight - no horse in this race
- Importance of the coast - supplies, easier to communicate with Mexican interior, etc.
- many centralist supporters along the Gulf Coast - San Patricio Irish Catholics, large Tejano population in Refugio and Goliad
- Santa Anna begins gathering troops for his Army. Tornel Decree.
- Prelude
- Houston manages to dissuade most of the Matamoros guys and they join up with Fannin
- Grant and Johnson take the rest of their volunteers into Tamaulipas to look for horses
- Urrea crosses over on Feb 18; Urrea has convinced the federalists in Matamoros not to support the Texians and double agents tell Grant and Johnson that the revolt is still on
- neutralize Matamoros Expedition
- Battle of San Patricio
- Battle of Agua Dulce
- Refugio
- Citizens want to leave - Lewis Ayers begs Fannin for help
- Fannin sends King and then Ward to Refugio to help, they are stupid
- Battle of Refugio
- Coleto
- Fannin delays delays delays
- Finally tries to leave, poor planning, poor decision making
- Caught on a field, battle of Coleto
- differing intepretations of surrender terms
- marched back to Goliad
- Massacre
- Other people taken prisoner at Copano and marched to Goliad
- Urrea doesn't want to kill them all
- Santa Anna orders otherwise
- some spared, some escape, everyone else killed
- Aftermath
- Urrea was the only Mexican general to win; did not want to retreat after San Jacinto
- Santa Anna faced a tribunal over the massacre and the Alamo
- Tornel decree rescinded when massacre news reached Mexico
- huge outpouring of criticism everywhere - convinced more Americans to come fight in Texas
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