Talk:Grand Prix (1966 film)
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[edit]I fixed a common misconception in the "Trivia" section - the plural of "Grand Prix" is "Grands Prix."
Kether83 05:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed it is :) I've just added the WikiProject Formula One banner for this great film! Bobby Doorknobs 01:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Scott Stoddard is Based on Jackie Stewart
[edit]he has the identical tartan helmet livery, the indentical BRM car and jaw protector, please add this to trivia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.9.92.240 (talk) 20:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Stoddard is referred-to as an Englishman in the film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.89.172 (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- Aron has the same helmet as Chris Amon, it doesn't make Aron a Kiwi. All the fictional drivers use existing helmets, but they were picked almost at random to help mesh footage... All of the drivers seem to be composites - Sarti uses elements of Fangio and Ascari; Aron uses elements of Phil Hill (unsurprisingly) and Ritchie Ginther; Barlini uses elements of Bandini, Surtees and the Ditton flyers; Stoddard is closer to Clark than Stewart, with Moss' injury thrown in, and they all use variations on things Phil Hill has been quoted as saying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.58.229 (talk) 21:06, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Can you see me now?
[edit]He's uncredited here (& at IMDB). Who did the announcer VO? TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 17:05, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Location of footage from French Grand Prix?
[edit]Hello, the 1966 French Grand Prix took place at Reims. The 1965 race took place at Clermont-Ferrand. The article on the movie as it stands now says that footage in the movie from French GP is from Clermont-Ferrand. 4
My understanding was that footage for the movie was obtained at venues that hosted the actual grands prix.
So then is the footage in the movie from Reims, instead of Clermont-Ferrand?
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.68.32 (talk) 02:23, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- From memory I think they couldn't get the rights to the footage from Reims, so they used footage from Clermont-Ferrand instead. Will provide a more detailed answer when I have time to research it properly (of course others are welcome to chime in beforehand). DH85868993 (talk) 06:10, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure that the "making of" documentary that comes with the bluray mentions that the footage used is C-F but I don't remember any mention of R or why it was not part of the film. I may not be able to rewatch it this weekend so if anyone else does please let us know what you find. MarnetteD|Talk 17:17, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've done some Googling. Page 102 of John Frankenheimer: Interviews, Essays, and Profiles by Stephen B. Armstrong says "The only race shoot that did not occur at a "live" race weekend was the film's French Grand Prix. The real French race in 1966 was held at the flat and featureless Reims circuit, and so Frankenheimer staged a mock race at Clermont-Ferrand, which allowed the luxury of time to fill in many of the story elements and flesh out some of the characters." DH85868993 (talk) 00:03, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
- Good work DH85868993. I think it could be added to the article - maybe as a footnote - and that you should do the honors since you put in the effort. Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk 05:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've added it in. It also serves as a reference for the fact that some of footage came from actual F1 races. DH85868993 (talk) 01:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- Looks good DH85868993. As I remember it (all of this is making me want to watch the film again - maybe this weekend) the French GP was the one filmed in an almost dream like sequence with multi-screen shots of the cars floating along the road. What you have found helps to explain why this was different from the camera coverage of the other races. Once again thanks for the excellent work. MarnetteD|Talk 01:43, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've added it in. It also serves as a reference for the fact that some of footage came from actual F1 races. DH85868993 (talk) 01:27, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- Good work DH85868993. I think it could be added to the article - maybe as a footnote - and that you should do the honors since you put in the effort. Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk 05:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
- I've done some Googling. Page 102 of John Frankenheimer: Interviews, Essays, and Profiles by Stephen B. Armstrong says "The only race shoot that did not occur at a "live" race weekend was the film's French Grand Prix. The real French race in 1966 was held at the flat and featureless Reims circuit, and so Frankenheimer staged a mock race at Clermont-Ferrand, which allowed the luxury of time to fill in many of the story elements and flesh out some of the characters." DH85868993 (talk) 00:03, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure that the "making of" documentary that comes with the bluray mentions that the footage used is C-F but I don't remember any mention of R or why it was not part of the film. I may not be able to rewatch it this weekend so if anyone else does please let us know what you find. MarnetteD|Talk 17:17, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Ambiguity of Scott Stoddard character's nationality
[edit]The article stats he is a Scot. That is open to interpretation.
In the film he is portrayed as English, with the appropriate accent and English parents and brother. And yet he wears a distinctively Scottish heritage tartan design on the helmet. This causes confusion because nowhere in the script or film is a Scottish nationality otherwise indicated.
I suggest the article find a more neutral wording and identify the character as British, thus covering both bases.
ShelbyMarion (talk) 15:24, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
So far as I'm aware, the sole reason the Stoddard character wore a tartan design on his helmet was to maintain continuity with the driving sequences - Jackie Stewart did the actual race driving sequences, and his race helmet had a tartan pattern.
Chris Keating (talk) 03:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Stunt triple?
[edit]Two things. I've seen it said Graham Hill was one of the drivers in at least one "crowd shot" (& he looks right at the camera), but isn't mentioned. And if JYS did the stunt driving, which still wants a cite, he's not "cast", since stunt drivers or doubles aren't ever (strictly speaking) cast members. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 14:36, 10 January 2019 (UTC)