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Usurper

This is incorrect. He was considered a usurper because he was put in power by the British. This was a component of their scheme to interrupt modernizations being implemented by King Amanullah Khan. Another move made by the British was appealing to the ultra-hardline clerics who opposed such changes in order to oust the king. A modern, progressive, and ultimately democratic Afghanistan would've been a disaster for British influence as it would have served as a model for democratization and modernization throughout south/central Asia and the Middle East. --the preceding comment was added by Barakzai2k6 at 20:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Professor Khalilullah Khalili in his memoirs as an eyewitness says the opposite; that Amanullah was put in by the Soviets, he was encouraged to murder his father and people rose against him because of his arrogance and misrule and elected Habibullah Kalakani as king. Then the Soviets made their first incursion into Afghhanistan to bring Amanullah back to power using ground troupes and air force. Britain's Charge d'Affaires, a pot bellied Indian called Mehboob Ali, did not appear till the very end in this saga. The Soviets also made their first political assassination at this time when they murdered the Afghan General Consul to Tashkend, Seyed Hashim Khan.

Khalili's memoirs has just been published.--Wool Bridge (talk) 09:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.94.65.90 (talk) 09:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Why is this article under "Habibullah Ghazi" as opposed to "Habibullah Kalakani"? I haven't done the research, but I noticed that both names were used in Afghanistan related Wikipedia articles. One article indicates that Kalakani indicates a village or subtribe, while Ghazi seems to indicate the larger tribe. --Bejnar (talk) 22:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, Ghazi" was the title that he used (it means someone who fights for Islam). Alefbe (talk) 07:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it Habibullāh or Habībullāh?

Title and heading have different versions of the name... --Againme (talk) 17:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

This picture is very degrading. Please add a picture of Habibullah when he was the King of afghanistan not a photo before his Emirate.--Inuit18 (talk) 07:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kingship/overthrow

Is any of this section true? There are no citations, and it seems to have been written in such a way as to make Kalakani seem like a coward (fugitive fleeing for his life). Then, it says that Kalakani was hanged. I do not think that this is an accurate depiction of the situation. In fact, I read somewhere else that Mohammed Nadir Shah asked Kalakani to come to a meeting to discuss the new government and then proceeded to have Kalakani assassinated at the meeting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.180.53.115 (talk) 08:51, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Daughter of Amir Habib died

Yesterday, the daughter of Amir Habibullah Khan Kalakani died in the hospital of Balkh in the age of 85years. God bless her. Maybe we can add this information on that article, too. --188.107.4.206 (talk) 12:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reference to popular books needed?

There are some fairly popular books in English about Habibullah Kalakani such as My Life: from Brigand to King (reprinted by Octagon Press 1990) as well as the Memoirs of Khalilullah Khalili (2014) which detail the rule of Habibullah if anyone is interested.--Wool Bridge (talk) 08:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"New wealth"

The article states Kalakani was the "son of a water carrier", had left his village after burning down his house, joined the army but left because of its "lack of good pay" and then suddenly returns to his village "[w]ith his new wealth." What wealth? LairdKeir (talk) 07:42, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion to prior version

A significant edit was introduced on 1 September using material from this site. However, much of it was introduced word for word which is not acceptable. Although some subsequent edits reworded some of this, I reverted to the version prior to the edit. If that source is an acceptable reliable source it can be used as source material but the contributions must be written in your own words.--S Philbrick (Talk) 14:51, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not clear where the problem was introduced, but the section on his death is confusing to the point of incomprehensible. This article needs lots of help. Rlsusc (talk) 19:44, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Butcher of Kabul?

Was he ever called the "butcher of Kabul?" I see no reliable sources for this designation, which is newly added. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 20:02, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Dates of Kalakani's reign

Currently, this page and List of heads of state of Afghanistan state that Kalakani's reign lasted from 17 January 1929 to 16 October 1929. Both of these dates are problematic. First of all, 17 January 1929 is the date that Kalakani took control of Kabul, but he had been formally claiming the Afghan throne since 14 December 1928, and also had de facto control of parts of Afghanistan since he captured Jabal al-Siraj on 11 or 12 December. So, during 14 December 1928 to 17 January 1929, it would be better to say that Kalakani and Amanullah/Inaytullah were both contesting the throne in the Afghan Civil War. 16 October 1929 is just entirely wrong - Kalakani had lost control of the Arg on 13 October 1929, ending any control of Afghanistan he had. I'm also going to change Mohammed Nadir Shah's reign as beginning on 15 October 1929, as that's the date that he entered Kabul after his forces had captured it. The source of this information is Kabul Under Siege: Fayz Muhammad's Account of the 1929 Uprising. Koopinator (talk) 15:08, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Neutrality tag added

I added a POV tag next to the statement that called him a thief, among other things. It is poorly written and uses loaded language. Firestar464 (talk) 01:31, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]