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The song "Kansas City" performed by Little Richard and covered by The Beatles, is not at all a medley with "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!"

The version of "Kansas City" performed by Little Richard and next covered by The Beatles was mistakenly called "Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey (a medley)". The title announcing this non-existent medley did appear only on a later pressings of Beatles_for_Sale, due to an intervention of Venice Music, being an interested party (see Notes here). But actually nor Little Richard, neither The Beatles did never perform this so-called medley, them did perform "Kansas City".
There is the chronology of recordings by Little Richard and their releases:
September 13, 1955: "Kansas City", at least two takes. This first version was very close to the original song by Leiber & Stoller, but was first released only in 1971 (take 2 of this version, which runs 2:16).

November 29, 1955: "Kansas City", at least eight takes. This second version, very different from the first one (in particular, including a refrain starting by the words "Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey") was first released in March 1959 (it runs 2:37).

May 9, 1956: "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey", at least eight takes. This song, having not to do with "Kansas City" (except a title and verse similar to the refrain of "Kansas City" 2nd version) was released in January 1958.
So none of versions of "Kansas City", both recorded by Little Richard in autumn 1955, can be a medley with "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey", recorded a half of year later.

January 1958: Single Specialty 624 "Good Golly Miss Molly" backed by "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" is released.

March 1959: Album "The Fabulous Little Richard" (Specialty LP-2104) including "Kansas City" (2nd version) is released.

April 1959: Single Specialty 664 "Kansas City" (same 2nd version) is released.
No "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" on title of song, no "medley", the title is simply "Kansas City".
However, as "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" was released more than a year before "Kansas City", it was considered as preceding "Kansas City". That "inverse chronology", together with a similarity of the word "Hey" repeated four times in both songs, created a mistake.
This second version of "Kansas City" issued in 1959 was covered by The Beatles. No medley here.
This obvious mistake, being created accidentally or intentionally, should be fixed.
RocknRollArchivist (talk) 20:15, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To make it short: No, there is no obvious mistake. Surely the article is not very precise, but Kansas City and Hey-hey-hey-hey was merged by Little Richard on his 3rd album and then was covered by the Beatles, who paid in the 1970s some 10.000 dollars because of Richard's credits. --Krächz (talk) 20:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Now I understood waht you are meaning. Thanks. --Krächz (talk) 22:13, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In 1984 the Danish Richardologist John Garodkin wrote about Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey: "The tune is building on the developed version of Kansas City". (John Garodkin: Little Richard Special. 2nd ed. Mjoelner Edition, Praestoe 1984, ISBN 87 87721 14 7, p. 220)

So, I guess, you are totally right. --Krächz (talk) 22:22, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have clarified the article as best I can, adding citations. However, the editorial slant—that the Beatles "medley" is not really a medley, but a version of "Kansas City," and the associated implication that "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" is not an original song—verges on original research without a proper citation from John Garodkin or another source. As I can be considered an interested party representing Leiber & Stoller, I must be clear that I did not generate this narrative, nor do I (or Leiber & Stoller) challenge Little Richard's authorship of "Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey" or his right to royalties for the Beatles medley. My editing was exclusively to improve the existing text. I believe what is here to be factually correct, but I question whether it should make up virtually the entirety of the article. Pstoller (talk) 02:24, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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