Talk:Holyoke Blue Sox

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Alumni section

Hi, noticed your revert, which then reinstated a citation problem. As far as I can seem the guy's name etc is buried in the stuff about alumni & this was why I made the "not notable" decision. Feel free to revert again but if you do so then please could you also fix the problem with the refs. - Sitush (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, fixed the citation tag problem (though that really threw me for a loop for a second, haha). And I'm sorry if I'm being an idiot, but how do the notability guidelines for articles (a baseball player must have played at the AAA level or in a minor league all-star game in lower levels) apply to a player's being mentioned in a page section? As a professional alumnus of the team about whom the article is written, wouldn't he merit a mention in an alumni section on the page? Thanks for being civil and starting a conversation by the way. Kithira (talk) 19:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a rule of thumb thing. If we do not do this then lists become untenably long, and this applies to all sorts of subjects rather than just sports players. A line has to be drawn somewhere and the easiest, most consistent way to do so is to invoke the WP:N guidelines. You'll see it happening on pages for towns/cities etc, on those for schools and colleges ... and just about everywhere else. I'm not sure why you have not seen the convention before but it certainly should apply to Blue Sox. Remember also that lists in articles are discouraged in the first place (I know, I know, this is a rule that sometimes seem to be observed more in the breach than in its application!). Create a separate "list" article, although even then the notability convention would usually be applicable. - Sitush (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, interesting. I just have trouble looking past the line that opens to WP:N page- "On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a topic can have its own article." Thus, the information within articles need not be subjected to as stringent notability guidelines as the article topic itself. In any case, I wouldn't think an article titled "List of Holyoke Blue Sox professional alumni" would meet WP:N. I'm not exactly prepared to haggle over policy though, so happy editing, and thanks very much for the conversation. Kithira (talk) 19:59, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]