Talk:Hudson Hawk

Surreal

The movie's not surreal because of slapstick humor and a few cartoon sound effects. It's also surreal because 5-inch glass crystals hide inside 5mm thick book covers, and people are transported in boxes of packing peanuts. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 22:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I think you mean, "It's surreal because...," not "It's also surreal because...," otherwise you're contradicting yourself. I agree and have changed the line to read, "The live action film makes heavy use of cartoon-style slapstick, including sound effects, which enhances the movie's signature surreal humour." Canonblack 04:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I think wikipedia makes use of the word surreal far to loosely, theres nothing even remotely surreal in Hudson Hawk.

Agreed. Within this context, using the word "surreal" is nothing more than an attempt to polish a turd.172.190.33.31 (talk) 01:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Surreal (def): marked by the intense irrational reality of a dream; "a surreal mix of fact and fantasy."

A cat burglar, fresh out of prison, is forced to steal artifacts associated with DaVinci, because a CIA team - whose members are named after candy bars - the Vatican and a couple of insane billionaires are trying to recreate a machine that turns lead into gold... no, nothing surreal about that. If you dislike the movie, that's one thing - personally I think it was a great spoof of the whole "thief wants to go straight but no one will let him" concept - but that doesn't make it any less surreal. Hell, pretty much any movie that combines Sandra Bernhard, Richard Grant and a butler who keeps swords up his sleeves, is going to be the definition of surreal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CleverTitania (talk • contribs) 03:42, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Da Vinci Crystal Object

Could this object be considered a possible Phliosopher's Stone?Burbankjones 01:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)burbankjones

Reason for humor

This article does not mention the true reason for considering this movie humorous. Like Plan 9 from outer space, the reason to watch this film is to laugh at the movie and at the nonfiction farce that its cinematic production was, not with this film's on-screen fictional content. This film can be enjoyed as pure Schadenfreude at the nonfictional Mr. Willis's expense. —optikos 05:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

When did you last watch the film before posting this? Rewatch it, it is clearly meant to be a slap-stick comedy - maybe not as outrageous as the "Airplane" series, but rather a notch or two about the "Whole Nine Yards". Perhaps in line with "The Last Action Hero", "Ninja Turtles", "Dick Tracy" or "The Adventures of Ford Fairlane": a movie that doesn't take itself seriously and wants to make the audience laugh. Frank0051 (talk) 07:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Not So

I absolutly love this film, it doesn't take itself too seriously. One of my all time favourites

Brucie's bald patch

Many years ago, when Amstrad Action reviewed the computer game, they said that Bruce had gotten very touchy about his developing bald patch, and had insisted that it be covered up in the film using computer graphics. Is there any truth to this, or were they having a laugh? Watching this film right now, I can see Bruce has no visible bald patch, so it's either true, or he didn't have a bald patch to begin with!!! Dave-ros 20:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Stallone's Brother

When Hudson is speaking to Cesar Mario about the auction house job, he says that the instructions are 'easy enough for your brother to understand' - Some kind of reference to Sylvester Stallone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redback (talk • contribs) 14:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

(German) Synchronisation - almost a different movie

Not sure how or if that should be included, but at least the german synchronisation is quite different from the original. The main plot still is the same, of course, but the tone is a lot more lightheartedly and over-the-top. Several scenes have added text where characters talk off-screen, usually some trivial fluff that generally enhances the light mood of the movie. A lot of dialog was changed as well, mostly to be less serious, more fun. Also, most if not all of the swearing was either removed or changed to something less offensive, if not even humorous. A rather prominent example of the changing is the scene in Rome, where Hudson talks to Kaplan - in the original Kaplain talks about his first murder in Rome, in the german dub instead he talks about a love affair. (Since this is, obivously, my personal opinion and original research, I'm not even trying to include it on the main page.)

--Cyberman TM (talk) 18:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

At 1H02m, Minerva Mayflower (Sandra Bernhard) states that gold and lead are one proton away from each other on the periodic table of elements. A quick glace shows that they are actually three protons away (lead has 82, gold has 79). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.51.49 (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

References

Inaccuracy

This is from the plot section:

Sister Anna Baragli (Andie MacDowell), initially his tail and later his refuge (and subsequent love interest), is an operative for a secretive Vatican counter-espionage agency, called the Vatican Organization led by George Kaplan (James Coburn), which makes an unexplained arrangement with the CIA to assist in the Roman portion of Hudson's mission, though apparently intending all along to use the connection to foil the robbery at St. Peter's Basilica.

This is wrong. The "Vatican Organization" is not "led by George Kaplan", it is led by The Cardinal (Leonardo Cimino), who is Anna's boss. They are initially in league with Kaplan's CIA operation to prevent the Mayflowers' success, but when Anna's reports make it seem that Kaplan and his team have gone rogue and may actually be working with the Mayflowers, they turn against Kaplan. It's pretty clear from dialogue that Kaplan is not part of the Vatican's team, he is a CIA officer, hence the Cardinal's lament: "Oh, the Pope warned me never to trust the CIA!" 98.211.124.111 (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

A Cult Following?

Is there any evidence that suggests that this movie's becoming a cult film? The Youtube link to Willis and Aiello's duet of Swinging on a Star has a comments section filled with fans, despite this movie being a flop, and this very article seems to suggest that it failed partially because is was improperly labelled as an action flick, when it's actually a comedy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.104.190 (talk) 12:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it is getting a cult following through its showings on cable TV. I'm a 20-something and love the film! Frank0051 (talk) 07:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Issues with Tommy (Danny Aiello)'s introduction in the plot

Tommy is introduced really late in the plot description, as Hudson Hawk's friend and partner. The nature of their partnership isn't even discussed. And the introduction mentions them doing jobs together while singing famous duets in order to keep track of time, and this is never discussed, and that description also implies that Tommy should be introduced earlier in the plot (since Hudson Hawk does jobs throughout the movie). Hope that made sense. Nandor1 (talk) 04:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

The discussion of the post Die Hard 2 marketing

It says that the line in the "Hudson Hawk" tagline was changed to "Catch The Comedy", yet complains that the film was sold as an action movie. If that change was the case, then it was sold as a comedy, not an action movie. Nandor1 (talk) 05:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Sold as an action movie when in the cinemas, the change in tagline was for the VHS release (if I understand the article) - presumably as a reaction to it flopping in the box office when trying to be sold as an action movie. --87.242.189.106 (talk) 13:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC)