Talk:Hugh Pigot (Royal Navy officer, born 1769)

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Did you know... that after Captain Hugh Pigot was killed in a mutiny, Captain Edward Hamilton led the force (pictured) that recaptured his ship HMS Hermione?

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Grammar[edit]

The section on the mutiny needs some work on the grammar - I've demoted this to start for now. 129.79.34.127 (talk) 15:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give some examples? Benea (talk) 15:40, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absent examples, and after some minor copyedits, I have restored the former rating. Kablammo (talk) 09:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reworked the HMS Hermione mutiny into this article, hopefully its better now. Kirk (talk) 13:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious[edit]

The 9 officers killed doesn't quite make sense to me, Ill try to find the sources in my library and check. It might be helpful to list the officer compliment, with names if possible and the casualties in previous actions to explain why the ship had 3 lieutenants, but only one midshipman when a ship of that class should have had at least 6. I'm curious how the master and two master's mates survived as well. The Marine commander should have been a lieutenant. Very interesting article - hope that helps! Kirk (talk) 13:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the ip editing is you Kirk, and I'm fairly sure it is, can you please be careful to sign in? Those killed alongside Pigot included, according to Guttridge; Bosun William Martin, Lieutenant Archibald Douglas, Lieutenant Henry Foreshaw, First-Lieutenant Samuel Reed, Marine commander Lieutenant McIntosh, a midshipman, the surgeon, the purser and the captain's clerk. Instead of 'the midshipman' read 'a midshipman'. Master's mate William Turner was one of the mutineers and was later elected to run the ship. The Marine commander was as you can see a lieutenant, his post was given and not his rank, Master Edward Southcott was wounded in the early stages, but due to his popularity was allowed to live. Benea (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Every so often Wikipedia logs you out, sorry about that! I added another reference, numbered the lieutenants, and I found 4 midshipmen - Casey was demoted which was what prompted the mutiny, two were killed, and one joined the mutiny. Midshipmen don't count as officers, otherwise they were 11 dead officers, not 9. Still missing a master's mate and two midshipmen, but that might have been normal. Two key mutineers were petty officers - the master's mate and the surgeon's mate. Kirk (talk) 15:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In popular culture[edit]

Without any references, the contention that Captain Sawyer is based upon Captain Pigot seems to be pure speculation. The incident involving Pigot is mentioed in the Hornblower novel Lord Hornblower and though cruel, the issues with Captain Sawyer all stem from his paranoid schizophrenia. I propose to delete this section unless anyone can offer some supporting material.Mighty Antar (talk) 12:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]