Talk:Hurricane Ella (1970)

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Date	Process	Result
September 19, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that only weeks after Hurricane Celia devastated southern Texas in 1970, residents had to evacuate again when Hurricane Ella threatened?

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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk • contribs • count) 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC) Nice article, but I have some comments.[reply]

"The sixth tropical storm and third hurricane of the season, Ella developed on September 8 in the western Caribbean Sea." what nubmer tropical cyclone and hurricane was it?
- It says third hurricane.... I didn't think the #cyclone was relevant. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Initially the hurricane was forecast to hit southern Texas, which prompted evacuations and hurricane warnings; this occurred about a month after Hurricane Celia caused significant damage across the region." Wikilink to hurricane warnings.YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- IDK, it's linked in the body of the article when it's really needed. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Initially the hurricane was forecast to hit southern Texas, which prompted evacuations and hurricane warnings; this occurred about a month after Hurricane Celia caused significant damage across the region." This sentence is somewhat lengthy, you might want to consider splitting it up. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:SPLIT applies to splitting articles, not sentences :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I know, but that's not my point.YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
    - I was only kidding, I took care of that sentence. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"A tropical depression developed from the system on September 8 near Swan Island off the north coast of Honduras."I'd wikilink since most people don't know where that is exactly. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It links Swan Islands already. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I meant Honduras, BTW. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 02:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think that's common enough that it isn't needed. At the very least, it doesn't provide any further context to the article by linking to a country. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
" As the ridge to the north weakened, Ella slowed markedly and quickly strengthened.[1]"I'd clarify that it the storms foward speed slowed, becuase the it reads that the wind speed slowed IMO. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- MK. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"In the 12 hours before moving ashore, the winds increased from 100 mph (160 km/h) to 125 mph (201 km/h), making Ella a major hurricane (Category 3 on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale).[3] " a major hurricane is not just Cat 3, it is a Cat 4 and 5 as well as Cat 3. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- But Ella wasn't a Category 4 or 5. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fair enough. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 02:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since there is aftermath, the "Preparations and Impact" section should be re-titled to "Preparations, impact, and aftermath" IMO. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- Ehh, that'd make it pretty long though. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Any impact in Central America or southern Mexico? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I just checked and couldn't find anything. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The hurricane increased surf action along the Texas coast, with wave heights of 7 ft (2.1 m) observed.[8] " I dont see any need for the word "action".YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- Good call. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"As a result, small craft were recommended to remain at port.[9] " Isn't this preprations, so it should be listed first IMO.YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- No. I ordered it geographically, so it had the preps/impact for each area affected. It just so happened that Texas's section was rather long. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Observations in northeastern Mexico were sparse, although wind gusts from Ella reached 150 mph (240 km/h).[1]" why were they sparse? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure, that's what the source said. Probably not very populated there. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
" The Brownsville Weather Bureau office noted the potential for 15 in (380 mm) of rainfall to occur in Mexico along the hurricane's path,"again, isn't this preparations? It should be listed first since it is WPTC policy to put preps first, then impact. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- See above. I ordered everything geographically. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The Brownsville Weather Bureau office noted the potential for 15 in (380 mm) of rainfall to occur in Mexico along the hurricane's path,[12] " wikilink to thhe BWB if it has an article.YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- Nah, individual weather offices don't have articles. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"and heavy rainfall occurred in portions of northeastern Mexico.[13] "how heavy? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It didn't say :( --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"heavy rainfall occurred in portions of northeastern Mexico.[13] " which state in MX? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The source was vague. It's like how some newspaper articles say "Southwestern United States", which could mean Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and/or Nevada. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"There, the rainfall disrupted post-storm rescue work. " Which Storm? Ella or Celia? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- Ella. Celia is only mentioned once. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Due to the hurricane, the Purification and the San Fernando Rivers crested above flood stage.[1]" Link the first river. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- There isn't an article. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The third pargrpah of the section should be split up IMO.YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I tried, but it made it too short. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since there are more than 10 refs, the refs should be in 2 columns IMO. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane
- It should automatically split based on your screen size. Mine has three columns. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why is this article at DYK and GAN at the same time? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Because it was a damned good article when I first published it :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For a storm that you called "s*****", the article is ok. Since the issues are minor and it is fairly well written, Ill leave it on hold for an unknown period of time. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review! BTW, have you considered shortening your signature? It's rather long and obtrusive. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Over the years, I have considered shortening my signature. BTW, it use to be longer.YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 02:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Hah, ok, I was only wondering. It does take up almost three lines. I believe I addressed your last concerns. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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