Talk:Hurricane Huko

Hurricane Huko was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 29, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
December 28, 2012	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 12, 2008.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Hurricane Huko had effects in all three North Pacific tropical cyclone basins?

Current status: Delisted good article

Todo[edit]

As always, good work. I put it at B, although it needs a copyedit before GAN. There is some awkward wording, and the first sentence of the SH does not make any sense. In the sentence, "Despite never entering the East Pacific, moisture from Huko merged with a trough which moved over California, causing heavy rains that broke various 24–hour rain records along the San Joaquin Valley.", 24–hour rain is supposed to be a hyphen instead of an en dash. You might want to trim the lead down a tad, as well. Cheers. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, didn't notice this. Add metric conversions to the impact section. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I trimmed down the lead and split/redacted several of the most verbose sentences. As I am going to nominate the parent article for GA status, if this becomes a GA we'll have a good topic on our hands. And if that topic ever becomes featured, I believe that Kenna will become the first article to be in three featured topics.Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 02:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was intending to work in-depth on the 2002 PHS as a topic (GT or FT doesn't matter, but I was aiming for FT). I still have articles up my sleeve for the subject. However, if you nominate it, I can renominate it with the newly added articles. Do with it however you wish. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 02:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In that case it's a long way to being featured if there are going to be future articles. I don't wish to rush you as there's no need for a mad rush. Taking your sweet time to make an article as good as possible is perfectly fine. Also, the next time you make an article with inline cites, there's no need to repeat a reference out in full. For example, if you have a reference <ref name=myRef>{{cite web...}}, there's no need to repeat everything (like this: <ref name=myRef>{{cite web...}}) the second time it's used. Instead you can just do this: <ref name=myRef/> (notice the /). It's actually easier to do it this way because if a reference changes (eg it's moved) it's only necessary to update it once, rather than however many times it's used. So if it was you who repeated references out in full when writing this article, please change. If it wasn't you, please don't start.Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 02:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was my article work, and yes, I was the one who did the full references. However, I already changed. My recent Andrew 86 article was done with a neater cite web and with shortcut sources. It was much easier to do, and it worked well. Thanks for the notice though. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 05:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What other storms are you planning to make articles on? If I had to guess, they'd be one/many of: Fausto (for the unusual regeneration), Ele (same reasons as Huko), Boris (impact in Mexico), and Julio (same reasons as Boris, as well as the landfall). Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was planning on working on Boris eventually. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 00:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to have Boris, then you may. I was intending articles on Alma, Cristina, Fausto, Ele, and Julio for certain. Depending on information, I may attempt Douglas, Iselle, Twelve-E, and Lowell. As far as articles are concerned, this leaves Genevieve and Alika, the latter of which may not get one due to lack of info. All it has is the CPHC report and a record to its name. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 23:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(indent reset) Cross Fausto off your list as Yellow Evan created an article. I managed to bring the stub/start up to an acceptable state. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 06:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First things first Ele more notable than Huko so that come first.Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 13:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that, Huko did do minor damage. Merge Ele and the timeline, send this to GAN, and nom for GT. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Huko/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hurricanefan25 (talk · contribs) 21:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"was one of three named tropical cyclone's to develop in the Central Pacific Hurricane Center's area of responsibility." - uninteresting lede sentence, and it implies that it was one of three of all time, not just that year
- Can't find a better one, but reworded. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"It formed on October 24." - too short, and add a bit - just a bit - about the monsoon trough there, along with the formation
- Added. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Initially poorly organized, it moved to the north." - Maybe "Initially, Huko maintained poor organization as it moved to the north"
- Did not incorporate your suggestion as it changed the meaning, but re-worded. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"However, since Tropical Storm Lowell was less than 900 mi (1,400 km) east of Huko, combined with brief increase in wind shear caused by an" - remove "since" and add "and" before combined; any Fujiwhara effect?
- AFAIK No. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
"Date Line" - add "International" and link
- Did #1, but did not to #2 per WP:OVERLINKING. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane
Please format the dates the same way in the refs
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If possible, add publishers to the citations
- Added. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's a few minor problems with word choice, but they aren't a big deal
- Thanks for the review. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?[edit]

A merger was brought up on the Good topic candidacy page. I hadn't thought if it, but it makes sense, considering how little Huko did, and how the info here could be split between the two basin season articles. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A merge is pointless. So what if Huko did little? And just becuase the info here /could/ be split does not mean it should. What is wrong with the article staying? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane

The default shouldn't be an article staying. Huko doing little is a great reason to merge, given how its contents could be split between the basins. If it can be merged, then that's a great reason it shouldn't stay as is. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YE, if Huko did little, that means it doesn't deserve an article. There is only 1 non-Warning Center or Government source, and by the way, it is a deadlink and cannot be recovered. This storm isn't like Fausto earlier in 2002, which had a lengthy MH.--12george1 (talk) 01:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It did have a long track. I don't see any benefit that a merger would do to the season section or article. And why did you trim it down when it was perfectly fine on its own???? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 03:07, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't perfectly fine, there were major redundancies and awkward wordings. Don't see of it as a benefit to the season articles, see how pointless it is to have a section in both season articles considering how short it is here. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:29, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be merged, considering how little it did. There's two basins to merge all the information to. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 03:36, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, it's merged. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]