Talk:IFK Göteborg
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Peer Review
[edit]I completed a peer review of this article, and made some minor style and grammatical corrections. Phoenix2 02:37, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"Dress"? Or "strip"? Or something else?
[edit]The article users the term "dress" where Brits like me would use "strip". Is "strip" understood outside Britain? Or is there another term that can be used? (I can't think of one.) I'm asking because describing what the players wear as "dress" sounds a bit wrong to my ear. --Finbarr Saunders 12:04, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'm British too, and "dress" also sounds wrong to me. I'd certainly use "strip" myself, but I don't think it is worldwide, though: Americans say "uniform", and until only a month ago (when I added a mention) neither the strip nor uniform pages so much as mentioned that Britons don't call them "uniforms". Besides, the article uses British English spelling (eg "colours"), and is about a sport not that popular at a professional level in the USA, so an American word might look out of place. Maybe "kit" could be used, as indeed it is at the end of the "Colours and badge" paragraph.
- I think kit is the best word to use and have changed the article. How about the use of "jersey", is that an AE term and so should be changed to shirt, or is it used in BE too? -- Elisson • Talk 16:30, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- "Jersey" is used occasionally, but not as much in football as it is in rugby; "shirt" is by quite a long way the most common term here. I wouldn't say that "jersey" was incorrect though, and it's readily understood, so I think it's fine to leave it in. (Australians use "guernsey" in some sporting contexts, I believe, but that's never used in the UK.) Loganberry (Talk) 22:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- The other section I have a slight problem with is this: IFK Göteborg, Malmö FF, and AIK are often considered to be the three biggest and most classic Swedish football clubs... "Most classic" doesn't really mean anything in English, and a better phrase would be nice, though I'm not sure what. Admittedly this is a small point, but it's a featured article and so has to expect such small points to be made!
Loganberry (Talk) 12:46, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- An anon user reworded it earlier today. Better? -- Elisson • Talk 16:30, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- A lot better, Johan. Cheers to the anon. --Finbarr Saunders 19:43, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, that reads pretty well. The hyphen in "make up" was a bit odd, but I've taken that out now, and that apart I think it's a major improvement on the original. Loganberry (Talk) 22:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Copyediting
[edit]- after the troubled start IFK won everything they could win that year, including Allsvenskan, Svenska Cupen, and the UEFA Cup - could this be described as a treble, or were there other minor competitions as well?
- The first Swedish official national league, Allsvenskan, started in autumn 1924 / IFK won their first Allsvenskan title in the spring of 1935 - would it be possible to put the month for these? Helps to avoid confusion among readers from the southern hemisphere. Oldelpaso 17:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- It could be called a treble, but it should be noted (it seems I left that out when I wrote that section) that the actual Swedish Championship title was not awarded to the winners of the league, Allsvenskan, but to the winners of the league play-off (see 1982 in Swedish football for further info on the system at that time), which on the other hand was IFK as well. So it could be claimed that they won four major titles that year, but most people would consider Allsvenskan and the play-off to be one competition divided into two stages.
- I'll fix all date/month related issues when I do my next inline citation edit.
- I don't know how to thank you for the copyedit! – Elisson • T • C • 18:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- You don't need to. At least not yet, I haven't finished! Oldelpaso 18:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's good to see the "no-one really believed" has finally been removed. Epbr123 21:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- You don't need to. At least not yet, I haven't finished! Oldelpaso 18:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
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Swedish football champions
[edit]The featured list List of Swedish football champions (in which Göteborg enjoy pride of place as the most successful team ever) is currently a candidate for removal. The discussion can be found here. I came here in the hope that someone might be willing to help us overcome the linguistic hurdle, and thus help keep the list at featured standards. Thanks in advance, WFCforLife (talk) 19:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Misleading phrase
[edit]In the introduction, this article says about IFK Göteborg "They have played top flight football in Sweden since 1977, which currently is the longest top flight tenure of any club in Sweden". This phrase suggests that no team has maintained its position in the "top flight" (Swedish premier league) longer than IFK Göteborg's 33 years. Malmö FF holds this record at 63 years, as can be read in the history section of Malmö FF's Wikipedia article. The phrase is misleading and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.183.145.39 (talk) 01:34, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Orphaned references in IFK Göteborg
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Reference named "Allsvenskan & Swedish champions":
- From Malmö FF: "Svenska mästare 1896–1925, 1931–". svenskfotboll.se (in Swedish). The Swedish Football Association. Retrieved 22 August 2012.
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suggested) (help) - From Åtvidabergs FF: "Svenska mästare 1896–1925, 1931–". svenskfotboll.se (in Swedish). Retrieved 2009-11-25.
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